Here's the helpful 'sticky' on oil filters, and others that fit our bikes also. You might need some heat on it, maybe a hair dryer. It's a not fun job but it'll come.
http://www.triumphrat.net/air-cooled-twins-technical-talk/553633-oil-filters-that-fit-v2.html

Don't forget the 14mm crush washer also.

Good luck -

 

thanks LapinAgileIhave looked at all the threads but am still very confused, 01 to 04 bonnevilles should use HF191 (68MM DIA) 05 + SHOULD USE HF 204 (65mm dia) but mine appears to be fitted with the smaller incorrect filter how can that work still not sure what to fit,i just cannot see how the wrong size filter works and yet it seems to work anyone else able to help or explain, and why would my service garage fit incorrect part?

 

Where are you getting your information that Bonneville requires different size filters for various years? That's new to me, and may be stopping you from simply buying an available filter from the list I sent. Do you see any evidence or discussion of filters, but, for specific years?

 

Well triumph list 3 different part numbers T1210200 (68mm) T1210444 (65mm) And T1218001 all for the bonneville all of the makers of oil filters that make them for Bikes like K/N Fram Hiflo etc all list one part no for bonneville 2001 to 2004 and a different part no for bonnevilles from 2005 onwards buying the oil and filter together online companys all ask for year of machine and send correct filter so different size filters were fitted to bonnys

 

Could the difference in sizes for the oil filter, be based on the different size motors ? 790 vs 865.

Since I've only owned T100's (05 + 08) they both used the same size oil filter.

 

No it appears that in 2005+ all were fitted with T1210444 K&N list that as HF 204 size 65mm , but they list HF191 pre 2005 thats 68mm as do all others, yet mine is mid 2004 and is fitted with HF204 which would appear to be the wrong one, all of the makers list different fiilters pre 2005 and post 2005, the garage that serviced my bike for the past 11years have now closed so i cannot ask them

 

Use either one.

 

seems about right

 

the Wix filters i use on my 12 maggie have 2 fitments, i use the shorter one so i can jack it up easily + more ground clearance, my 13 vic hammer uses the longer one as its horizontally fit.

 

Wix makes an excellent filter, but if you go with Wix definitely opt for the shorter one.

Wix 51356 - Diameter = 2.685 Length = 3.402

Wix 51358 - Diameter = 2.685 Length = 2.782


:beerchug

 

Probably the different "equivalent" brands that fit and work fine have slightly different outside diameters (and lengths, as mentioned above). I've seen differences with the several brands of oil filter that I've used. There isn't any more to the story than that. If Triumph changes its contracted supplier of filters, then the part number might change if it requires a different size filter wrench.

I rarely have to use a tool to remove an oil filter that I've installed myself, properly.

 

The Triumph OE filters changed size back in 2005 from 68mm to 65mm, I remember this 'cos I had only recently bought the Triumph filter tool at £12, then a few months later I had to buy the smaller filter tool. The 65mm fitted all models just the same. I use Mahle OC575, not 'cos they're cheaper but 'cos imo they're a good filter.

They aint that cheap at £8.95
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60201-mahle-motorbike-oil-filter-oc575-for-various-motorcycles.aspx

 

The Triumph OE filters changed size back in 2005 from 68mm to 65mm, I remember this 'cos I had only recently bought the Triumph filter tool at £12, then a few months later I had to buy the smaller filter tool. The 65mm fitted all models just the same. I use Mahle OC575, not 'cos they're cheaper but 'cos imo they're a good filter.

Thanks Paul49 I thought i was going insane Triumph did change them, Had to resort to brute force to get the old one off, large srewdriver and hammer and it was the smaller 65mm one proper triumph , replaced it with Hiflofiltro HF 191,68mm either size fits, and i do object to Triumph charging more than double for its filters just cos its got Triumph printed on the side who's gona see it hidden under your engine, dont know who makes the Triumph one but I bet they are less than half the price, anyway all this was because I was fitting the TTP Safe Start idler boss reinforcement, but you drop all the oil out when you take that clutch cover off, but all done now
Thanks for everyones help
MIKE

 

All I can say about those two videos is "wow!", or maybe "huh?". My wife the feminist would probably have a few more words to describe them.

 

Yair and if I worked for Mahle I'd say mines the best to, I would say that most of us change our oil filter every 5,000kms or less, any filter is good enough!
pete.

 

Agree with the first part of your post. Disagree with the last part. All filters are not alike. While Mahle is clearly and appropriately biased in favor of their product, as he noted, there are some low-cost filters that are really crappy and should not be trusted.

As others have posted, why try to save a few bucks on something so important, and on something that you probably only have to buy 2 to 4 times a year.

Buy one less mocha latte or IPA and invest in a decent filter.

:beerchug

 

I would not put a cheap filter in anything of mine, automobile filters are not the best on filtration simply because people want cheap. Mind you, K&N aren't cheap but been there with both their oil & air filters, done that, we live & learn. Each to their own though, some like cheap, some go for the marketing, some have personal preferences. No harm in doing a bit of research.

Mann filters are (imo) very good also. They are good enough to put out open heart vids on their filters same as Mahle. Their filter for our bikes are the old size of 68mm OD. A good bit more expensive than Mahle, a tad better according to Mann.
https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/...icles/MOTORCYCLES/TRIUMPH (MOTORBIKE)/1050/Tiger 1050 (T30963)/Oil Filter/MW 64

Another vid comparison. Notice everybody ignores Fram, the (imo) poo of filters.

 

OP - you don't need a dedicated wrench to remove your stuck filter. Use a hammer and long, flat blade screwdriver. Put the tip on the top (the rolled edge, which capture the threaded silver face plate) of the filter. (Punching a hole through a filter is always a bad idea.) Angle the screwdriver so that when you tap it with the hammer it will push the filter in the direction you want it to turn. A couple of taps should loosen in enough to spin it by hand. yes, you[;l have to lie on the floor to do this, but it only takes a minute.

 

Oh ^^^no!!!

 

I don't need tools to get my oil filter off, although I might in the future if the arthritis in my right hand gets worse. :geezer

For a few years the Purolator Pure One premium filter had a rough-textured paint on it, great for getting a grip. They were an ugly mustard color but some leftover spray paint took care of that in a few minutes. Unfortunately, the textured paint is gone, and they are now one of the brands with a convex face plate that is unusable on these bikes.

 

I use a strip of sand paper to hold the filter. Gives enough grip to get it moving easy enough. Although I do my own servicing so its not done up over tight anyway. Give it a try. :beerchug

 

I do all my own service I use Microgard oil filters from O'rielly's and I have never used an oil wrench, hand tighten on and bare hand off- never had a leaky filter.

 

P.S. No, I am not a Wix employee, commissioned salesman, or fanboy. But I have used a lot of filters in my life and Wix impresses the heck out of me.

The Triumph OEM filter is now produced by Filtron, a Wix affilate in Poland.

If you can find a better filter for $10.......Buy it. :thumb

 

Microgard is as good as Wix (maybe the same with a different name) at a third of the price with the exact same filtering properties...20 microns. Here' the one you want.
MGL51358

 

See post #25

It is the same filter. Buy whichever one is cheaper.

 

All you "Hand Tighteners" out there obviously do not have bikes where the filter is buried and sideways....

 

Nonsense. You're just not trying hard enough. I can remove lug nuts with my fingers. Work on it, you slacker. :grin2:

 

The filters made by Wix for Triumph with the Triumph logo on them fit Triumphs.

The filters made by Wix that say Wix/Napa on them that folks used to use on Triumphs don't fit anymore. At least many don't. They changed the base plate design preventing the filter gasket from fully seating.

In all other aspects, I am sure they are excellent filters. But the leaking thing is kinda a deal breaker for me.

Some of the Wix filters you get will still fit (I assume old stock?). Same for Puralators. You can just eyeball the baseplate at the store to see if it'll work or not.


http://www.triumphrat.net/air-cooled-twins-technical-talk/553633-oil-filters-that-fit-v2.html


One could always black out the Triumph logo on the filter with a Sharpie if they find it offensive.

 

I have used the Wix 51358 (as referenced in my post above) on my 2014 T100 with no issues. Fits perfectly. No leaks.

Are you sure that the Wix 51358 is the exact same filter as the Napa? Again, I have never had a problem with the Wix.

 

I am personally not sure at all, I haven't held a bad one. I have first-hand experience the NAPA one doesn't fit, or at least some of them. Verified that in my garage.

I forget where the info that the Wix was the same came from. I'll look around a bit. But maybe they are different than the NAPA branded ones ...

I bought a half dozen OEM filters from the vehicle manufacturer for each of my vehicles last summer. I'm done thinking about it, and now I have inventory on hand. Probably not cost effective, but that not thinking about it thing is worth it to me



EDIT: OK, here's a picture of a Wix-branded Wix 51358 with the problematic convex baseplate, the one on the bottom (according to the guy who posted it at least). I don't know why some folks seem not to have problems with it. Bikes are different (narrower hex nut at the top of the threaded receiver on the bike?) or there are filters with the old flat baseplate still in circulation? Maybe they returned to the original design? I'm back to not thinking about it

 

I'll have to go check my inventory. Not sure what I have. If the Wix I use has that convex base, it's not been a problem. Hmmmmmmm

 

I've never heard of most of these filters you lot on about, are they US only. The op is UK anorl aint he, likely he's not heard of um either. They sell Fram here but they're worst of the worst eh.

Triumph filters aint cheap here but no difference to any other top quality filter our £9.36 will be similar to your $15 thereabouts eh? i pay that for Mahle, Mann are 50% more.

http://www.jacklilley.com/buy/Triumph-Genuine-Oil-Filter-Spin-on-type/T1210444.htm#.WIp6WjX0HIU

 

This change in part numbers was brought up on here 2,1/2 years ago, see link below. The part number T1210444 is still listed & sold by some dealers eg Jack Lilley link I posted up earlier. I wonder is this really all old stock & the difference just the price following a change of supplier.

http://www.triumphrat.net/street-triple-forum/429097-oem-oil-filter-t1218001-and-t1210444.html


https://shop.triumphmotorcycles.com/oil_filters/id-t1218001/spin_on_oil_filter

http://www.jacklilley.com/buy/Triumph-Genuine-Oil-Filter-Spin-on-type/T1210444.htm#.WIsjZzX0HIU

 

I will know in a few days when my order of 5 of the old part number arrives. The dealer sells both and the old ones still $9 as opposed to the new $15 price tag. If he sends me the new ones for $9 I will not complain.:grin2:

I also started a thread about tgis a while ago, they where putting stickers on Old Stock boxes to get rid of them. There is a difference in filters as you can see in the photo I posted back then.