Maybe ForaFrank knows...

 

I think he was the tool riding that ridiculous green HD, now that you mention it.

 

Yeah, sounds like Frank.

 

Not all Harley riders/owners are like that, I have some great mates who own Harley's but then I also have a few Harley mates who completely change when they throw a leg over their bike, their whole attitude changes and put their evil face on and carry on that their Harley's are the best bikes around and should only be the only bikes on the road.
But then when we all get together for our full day Sunday rides they want to stop all the time and brag how good their Harley's are, they get upset when we ride all day except when we stop for a quiet brekkie somewhere and then they say we ride too far or too fast, so now they ride in their own group, and don't menschen rain or an overcast day or you leave too early in the morning, why have a bike and not do the miles.
Most of my old Harley mates are getting old and grey and they only want to ride on short 2 hour runs, they are all turning into old women and don't I give it to them, but their Harley's are the best lol.
I have found the local HOG club to be the worst for attitude problems and their women who ride on the back even worst.
But as I say not all Harley riders/owners are like that, but then they do bite when you put sh it on them, all in fun of course lol.

 

It’s an insecurity thing.

 

But also it’s Frank.

 

I swear it is getting worse as I get older. They see another bike on the road ahead and seem to feel the need to show their true colors. Getting on 289 and of course the lob-cock behind me needs to recklessly pass me before I even start to merge.
And I'm not slow...
I see that ridiculous wall of a front end and it's 50-50 the tool behind it will do something obnoxious.

Sorry about that, I was trying to catch up with Road Captain ForaFrank.

Oddly enough in the UK it's normally bad riders on Jap crap who do that, normally spurtsbikes (too painful to ride to go slow & sit on it 2mins longer?) or naked supersports rubbish they are trying to pretend is fast (they aren't with such bad riders on).

 

Just ignore the nonsense and crack on with your day. To acknowledge them is to validate their bad attitudes.

 

It’s too bad that the prevalent attitude of HD riders focuses on what we ride vs that we ride. Harley makes some great bikes. I had a ’16 Road Glide Ultra that I put 78k miles on and loved it. IMO they’re way too expensive and don’t perform for sh$t. Anyway, as riders of other brands (blasphemy!!) we tend to focus on what a$$holes the pilots are and not the cool things about the bikes (which are many!)
Here’s a pleasant surprise, though. I recently moved to an area of the country (US) where I see all types/brands of bikes riding together. We even all wave to each other as we pass. I’ve been in lots of places where HD riders actually don’t wave back unless you’re on a Harley🙄

 

yes that happens in the UK , Harley riders will not give you a wave.

plasma1

 

Don’t really notice this happening in the UK.

 

It started during the AMF days, if you took a hand off it'd lurch into the gutter.

 

I blame frank

 

pretty much where I live there are a-holes on all brands of bike and genuinely nice people on all brands, and everybody pretty much waves to everybody.
now how does that story go
oh yeah,
Honda riders wave to everybody
Harley riders wave only to other Harleys
BMW riders don't wave to anyone except God and that is only if He waves first.

 

Pretty broad brush going there on the HD riders. I have found quite the opposite where I am.

 

Yeah, I find that they mostly couldn't pass my grandma if she was riding a bicycle.

 

Try working with a bunch of them. I'm not sure what's worse listening to people talk about their diet and exercise routines or people talking about how badass their Harleys are.

 

If they are able to pass you .....

 

As I said, reckless ********.

 

A lot of what people say is true and it's been like that for the 40 plus years I've been riding. BTW my other bike is a Harley.

 

I have a 2020 Triumph Bonneville T120 Diamond Edition. One of the finest motorcycles I have ever owned. I also enjoy my 2022 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special. But I love my 5th Harley, a 2023 Heritage Classic Anniversary Edition. I am no "Harley is better than every other bike on the road" guy, I know better. But no brand has ever created a better following.

 

i have a sort-of harley, a 1997 buell cyclone. i love it. the motor is fantastic, and the chssis is what harley should have done on its own.

mostly where i live people wave at me no matter what im riding, and no matter what theyre riding. and we all talk to each other while fueling or stopped somewhere. theres no issues there.

the few people who seem the most haughty are, interestingly, the old farts on the tricycle V-twins. i get the impression that theyre new to motorcycles, and are trying hard to fit into something.

but what the hell, we re all out there in the wind.

 

I wave at everyone on a motorcycle. Sometimes I forget and wave while I’m driving my car.

 

Ha! I do the same thing or a thumb up!

 

I've been known to forget & nod when on a push bike.

 

I swear it is getting worse as I get older. They see another bike on the road ahead and seem to feel the need to show their true colors. Getting on 289 and of course the lob-cock behind me needs to recklessly pass me before I even start to merge.
And I'm not slow...
I see that ridiculous wall of a front end and it's 50-50 the tool behind it will do something obnoxious.

I won't make any friends, but with my experience, I've realized that Harley owners are either dirty or morons. Yes, many are also very nice, but they seem to be limited in number. The same thing happened to me last week, but he couldn't pass because I was with my CB1000R and not with my Thruxton. So let me tell you a story. More than 30 years ago, I was a young motorcyclist, it was the first time I gave my wife a ride, she was nervous but confident because she knew I was careful. At one point, while I was riding in my left third following the traffic, an idiot appeared and passed me on the right, unlike me, he could not see that three cars ahead, the car had its indicator to turn left. The cars in front stopped suddenly, the idiot was surprised, he applied the brakes too hard, you should know that there were no anti-lock brakes in those years. The motorcycle started to slide and skid, the motorcycle went sideways and the passenger of the Harley was catapulted into the air. He also fell, the motorcycle was badly damaged as well as the pilot and his passenger. I didn't stop, they quickly got back on their feet, I just looked at them and continued on my way. Needless to say, afterward, my wife was never very keen on getting back on a motorcycle; she was traumatized in a way. I've owned several motorcycles in my life and I probably will again, but I'll never own a Harley, I'd be too afraid of becoming like them!

 

I won't make any friends, but with my experience, I've realized that Harley owners are either dirty or morons. Yes, many are also very nice, but they seem to be limited in number. The same thing happened to me last week, but he couldn't pass because I was with my CB1000R and not with my Thruxton. So let me tell you a story. More than 30 years ago, I was a young motorcyclist, it was the first time I gave my wife a ride, she was nervous but confident because she knew I was careful. At one point, while I was riding in my left third following the traffic, an idiot appeared and passed me on the right, unlike me, he could not see that three cars ahead, the car had its indicator to turn left. The cars in front stopped suddenly, the idiot was surprised, he applied the brakes too hard, you should know that there were no anti-lock brakes in those years. The motorcycle started to slide and skid, the motorcycle went sideways and the passenger of the Harley was catapulted into the air. He also fell, the motorcycle was badly damaged and so were the two passengers. I didn't stop, they quickly got back on their feet, I just looked at them and continued on my way. Needless to say, afterward, my wife was never very keen on getting back on a motorcycle; she was traumatized in a way. I've owned several motorcycles in my life and I probably will again, but I'll never own a Harley, I'd be too afraid of becoming like them!

2 passengers? How many were on that HD? (Or, was it the "Limited Edition ClownGlide?" LOL!)
Ironically, I'm contemplating riding with my local HOG tonite to a restaurant. They have a very strict NO DRINKING policy, that I like. (I think the dealership owner goes to AA...)

 

Large groups by definition will have more.... "exceptional" personalities. And let's face it, we're a tribalist species, just about to the core. It doesn't take much to get some of us up in arms about trivial differences. So yeah, I've encountered a few Hershey Highways on the highway.

But I'd say it's becoming less frequent, at least while moving. What with Indian (again, some HD owners love 'em, some hate 'em) and HD's own changes, it's harder to tell correctly at a glance. I wave at everyone, although with trikeish things and scooters it might depend on what kind of mood I'm in.

In person, standing around, I don't recall ever encountering a real jerk. Quite the opposite; I've had some really enjoyable discussions in line at the store or wherever. And I don't recall the last time a Harley rider's actual riding gave me reason to worry either.

So I'd say motorcyclist unity is growing, and that's good. Why divide ourselves in the face of the real enemy (brain dead cagers, those halfwit distracted deathmongers). Be nice. Get along.

Wonder if anyone on Hondas or Kawis would feel the same way?