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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Pokeyjoe said:
In addition to the comments above, none of the aftermarket options currently available require any modifications to the engine's fueling. If no more fuel is used, then no more power is created. The only advantage may be a loss of weight.
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Even with fuel controllers, most bikes only gain 3-5hp from an exhaust change. Nothing that is really noticeable, and most of the modern bikes will self learn the new AFR when you swap exhaust, unlike the FI bikes from 10 or so years ago, the modern bikes are much more intelligent.
 
#22 ·
Pokeyjoe said:
In addition to the comments above, none of the aftermarket options currently available require any modifications to the engine's fueling. If no more fuel is used, then no more power is created. The only advantage may be a loss of weight.
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I don't believe most of us are attempting to gain a power advantage out of the trident, though we definitely could with tuning, exhaust, and air filter upgrades. I, at least, recognize it is not a performance bike, but it does have a great sounding engine and I do so enjoy a good sounding engine being allowed to sing a little.
 
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Trippin RS said:
The Trident is targeted more for the entry level, affordable, neo-classically styled standard daily rider. It touts the lengthy 10k mi service interval for fuss-free riding and to appeal to non-wrenchers/more casual owners The Trident looks like a well designed, well-executed bike that will make a big impact for Triumph at the bargain $8000 price point, it looks like they hit their target market very well.
It's a great bike but everyone wants to make it louder and "perform" better, just line-up and pay the cashier. The irony is that Triumph optimized the exhaust system by integrating it into a single, closed system to meet emission, performance, durability and costs goals; it was not designed to be messed with and requires a complete system replacement, be prepared to pay. No simple slip-on here and any real performance gains will take some real testing/engineering (louder is not faster).
The good news is there will be a big aftermarket for this bike and there will be plenty of stuff to spend your money on. But for now, you can always just ride and enjoy the bike as-is (and not wake-up all of your neighbors). Ride well.
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Triumph designed the Trident exhaust as a one piece system because it was cheaper, period. They had to design it to meet emissions and noise regulations for the global market, it wasn't a choice. They optimized it as best they could under the cost and global market restrictions. As far as durability, it's arguable that a full stainless (or titanium) system will last much longer than the OEM exhaust (and look better too). We already know it's a full exhaust only to upgrade and that it won't be cheap, so there's nothing new there. Hopefully we'll see header-only options from quality manufacturers that can accept slip-ons, but we'll have to wait and see. The stock system is definitely robbing power from the bike and many would like it to sound better. Both the Zard and Yoshimura exhausts give good documented power and torque gains and they're both around half the weight of the stock system, which is essentially even more free hp. The sound is basically a bonus, so in this case louder is faster, even though it isn't always. If someone is happy with the OEM system, that's great, save the money, the Trident is a really great bike for the price in stock form. No one is saying anyone has to buy any aftermarket products for any reason, or that everyone wants to, but it's nice to know what's available for those who do.

 
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shrugsarefree said:
Triumph designed the Trident exhaust as a one piece system because it was cheaper, period. They had to design it to meet emissions and noise regulations for the global market, it wasn't a choice. They optimized it as best they could under the cost and global market restrictions. As far as durability, it's arguable that a full stainless (or titanium) system will last much longer than the OEM exhaust (and look better too). We already know it's a full exhaust only to upgrade and that it won't be cheap, so there's nothing new there. Hopefully we'll see header-only options from quality manufacturers that can accept slip-ons, but we'll have to wait and see. The stock system is definitely robbing power from the bike and many would like it to sound better. Both the Zard and Yoshimura exhausts give good documented power and torque gains and they're both around half the weight of the stock system, which is essentially even more free hp. The sound is basically a free bonus, so in this case louder is faster, even though it isn't always. If someone is happy with the OEM system, that's great, save the money, the Trident is a really great bike for the price in stock form. No one is saying anyone has to buy any aftermarket products for any reason, or that everyone wants to, but it's nice to know what's available for those who do.

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Well said. Every bike I buy, I buy with the intention of ripping the stock exhaust off and making it louder because I like the sound.

I started this thread in order to keep track of who is making exhausts for the bike since it is new... but I guess it turned into a financial lecture on how those of us who want to buy an exhaust need to save our money...
 
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Kb34 said:
Well said. Every bike I buy, I buy with the intention of ripping the stock exhaust off and making it louder because I like the sound.

I started this thread in order to keep track of who is making exhausts for the bike since it is new... but I guess it turned into a financial lecture on how those of us who want to buy an exhaust need to save our money...
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I've never bought a bike and kept it stock. I have a hardcore addiction to modding. So money isn't a factor. Well it is. But it isn't. LoL
 
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Kb34 said:
Well said. Every bike I buy, I buy with the intention of ripping the stock exhaust off and making it louder because I like the sound.

I started this thread in order to keep track of who is making exhausts for the bike since it is new... but I guess it turned into a financial lecture on how those of us who want to buy an exhaust need to save our money...
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No lecture intended. Just observations on the Trident's target market, design/manufacturing choices and the challenges to to meet a relatively low rice point. Please feel free to spend money and make it louder, we can hear you very clearly. Ride well and stay safe.
 
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Trippin RS said:
No lecture intended. Just observations on the Trident's target market, design/manufacturing choices and the challenges to to meet a relatively low rice point. Please feel free to spend money and make it louder, we can hear you very clearly. Ride well and stay safe.
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Sorry, typo "price" point. My bad, poor typist.
 
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Trippin RS said:
It touts the lengthy 10k mi service interval for fuss-free riding and to appeal to non-wrenchers/more casual owners
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Or those who commute a lot. I commuted on an R3 and I had to change the oil every 3000 miles, not a big deal as I could do it without removing bodywork. However the service interval I was concerned about was valve checks. I have talked to people who are more mechanically experienced than me and they said the valve checks are not something they like to deal with in the event they need to make adjustments. With a Street Triple, based on my first season of riding my R3, I would be needing a valve check every year. I don't mind taking care of smaller items, but having to drive almost two hours to the dealership and shelling out a grand each year would get old. The Trident suits my commuting needs much better than a Street Triple while providing most of the fun.
 
#31 ·
Another exhaust (looks nice - from the youtube vid, sounds nice too):
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The black pipes is a nice touch...

Exhaust system GTR8819 for Triumph TRIDENT 660 (21) bike

Learn more about Spark exhaust system GTR8819 for Triumph TRIDENT 660 (21): Full system: AISI 304 stainless steel collector + 60'S silencer
www.sparkexhaust.com www.sparkexhaust.com
 
#32 ·
Nice find - Sounds and looks great!
Looks like they have a version with a Moto GP style silencer as well and a few different finishes available in addition to black, including titanium and brushed stainless.
Their dyno chart seems to show around the same gains as the Zard and Yoshi, which is good news.
The weight savings (free hp) is about the same as at 5kg (11lbs) compared to 8.1kg (18lbs).
Cool.
 
#35 ·
Thnx, I figured if someone was getting aftermarket exhaust and had a chance to eliminate the cat at the same time they would get a aftermarket exhaust system without a cat that’s all, Unless for some reason they need to keep the cat.
nice looking system if it didn’t have the cat box…. FTG
 
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