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Speed Triple 1200 RS Issues

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#1 ·
Hi Guys

I'm new to Triumph motorcycles and to this forum. Sadly, my Triumph experience didn't start as I would have liked. I bought the Speed Triple 1200 RS and before reaching the first warranty at 1000km (I'm from Switzerland, we don't do imperial ) I already have two quality issues:

1. Same problem with the exhaust cover like described here: 2022 Speed Triple 1200 - Exhaust valve cover gone missing | Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums
My mechanic warned me before I bought the bike about this because it had already fallen off his demo bike. Apparently, he has ordered a complete exhaust because the part that broke off was welded on. Apparently, exhausts are currently not available (what a surprise 😜).

2. Quickshifter: The quickshifter doesn't always work. It seems like as soon as the bike gets warm, the quickshifter quits its duty and I have to use the clutch for changing gears. Sadly, there are no error messages displayed on the bike. The issue was reported to Triumph two weeks ago, they don't seem to have an answer yet.

Does anyone else have any issues like this with their new Speed Triple?

Best regards,

Marc
 
#2 ·
(1) is annoying but luckily doesn't interfere with riding and enjoying the bike. (2) seems like dealer service should be able to diagnosis this if it happens consistently after the bike is warmed up. Perhaps a faulty pressure sensor / wiring / connector. I can't imagine that the fault is past that (ecu, basically) if it works at least some of the time.
 
#6 ·
My quickshifter was smooth until I unplugged my dash installing the flyscreen, and freaked out the computer. Its currently at the dealer being set up again, so maybe it's just a software issue? Has your dealer tried doing the setup process again to calibrate the quickshifter?
Yeah I was wondering about this too.
I remember my dealership mentioning the mechanic had to ride the bike s few km's in some type of learning mode to calibrate the quick shifter.


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#7 ·
It's interessting to hear that installing the flyscreen can mess up something because I did have it installed when I bought the bike. The mechanic has already recalibrated the quickshifter, sadly it didn't solve the problem. They also did a software update, also with no effect.

While riding yesterday, again at the beginning the quickshifter worked for the first 10min or so. Then I had to stop at a red light and when I drove off it didn't work anymore. Seems like the combination of the bike beeing warm (probably the oil because the cooling water was already on temperature) and stopping with the engine running seems to mess up the system.

Anyhow I'm still waiting for Triumph to come up with an answer.

@Buster when the quickshifter works, its very smooth and fast. I hope Triumph gets this sorted because otherwise I really like using it.

@BmoreSpeed what do you meed by the quickshifter not beeing smooth anymore? Do you have the same problems as I do?
 
#8 ·
It's interessting to hear that installing the flyscreen can mess up something because I did have it installed when I bought the bike. The mechanic has already recalibrated the quickshifter, sadly it didn't solve the problem. They also did a software update, also with no effect.

While riding yesterday, again at the beginning the quickshifter worked for the first 10min or so. Then I had to stop at a red light and when I drove off it didn't work anymore. Seems like the combination of the bike beeing warm (probably the oil because the cooling water was already on temperature) and stopping with the engine running seems to mess up the system.

Anyhow I'm still waiting for Triumph to come up with an answer.

@Buster when the quickshifter works, its very smooth and fast. I hope Triumph gets this sorted because otherwise I really like using it.

@BmoreSpeed what do you meed by the quickshifter not beeing smooth anymore? Do you have the same problems as I do?
No, mine doesn't work at all anymore after installing flyscreen until dealer can recalibrate.
 
#12 ·
So here is a new problem that I have not seen reported so far: The bike has 2200 km in it. First service was done by the dealer. So far, there were no issues, however on Saturday after a full tank ride I have stopped to refill. Filled up, paid than back to the bike turn on, TFT turns on everything is fine until I want to start the engine. SILENCE. The engine did not start. It was not overheated (3 bars from high mark were off). I tried several times, then decided to push the bike home ~2km walk. In the meantime the bike cooled off and after ~15 minutes it turned on without issues. Arrived home and could repeat the same issue. Bike with hot engine does not start. I have managed to take a vide both at the fuel station and at home. Next day, cold engine starts with no issue.
Today I took it to the dealer, but it is just 12 Celsius degrees outside so I guess the bike has no heat issue as I could not repeat the problem at the dealer, but showed them the videos.
Now I'm sitting at home and watching the live GPS tracking how the dealer is riding around and tries to generate the error... As it is too cold outside I can imagine the error will not pop up again now and I will get back the bike without it being fixed...
 
#13 · (Edited)
Bike with hot engine does not start. SILENCE.
It's two very different things "not starting" and "not even trying to spin the engine". Are you sure you didn't try to start it with the kickstand down in 1st gear or forget the clutch pull even in N, it happens to the best of us ... You said you've got video, so I am guessing that was not the issue. Youtube?
 
#15 ·
This probably won’t help, but one possibility is a hairline crack somewhere in an electrical connection. It maintains continuity when cold, but when it heats up it expands just enough so that the connection is lost. I had that happen with a fuse in my car many years ago…the fuse looked fine visually, but there was a tiny crack that would open up when it got hot.
 
#20 ·
Good news! The dealer figured out that there was an issue with the clutch sensor. It "was not in place" according to the dealer, so I would assume due to vibrations the sensor got out of alignment and basically it was up to luck if it started or not.... Now if you would not need to pull the clutch in to start the engine, this issue would not rise. Also they did some software update.
 
#21 ·
Yeah, once they had the problem on hand, it was probably dead simple for them to see via diagnostics that the bike didn't see the clutch switch. Too bad the bike doesn't have a fancy display that could show helpful messages like "kickstand down and in gear!" or "clutch not pulled!" when the start button is pushed ...
 
#24 ·
Well add me to the list of people who have quickshifter issues.

Bike has been without issue for 4,500kms.

The other day 10mins into a ride I had done multiple upshifts without issue. Put some petrol in and then started downshifting when coming up to lights. I take off and get locked out the upshifts, shifter is locked in place until I use the clutch - the quickshift module wasn't recognising any pressure on the sensor. Restarted the bike and it would upshift and downshift maybe 50% of the time, but clunky.

I went for another ride the following day in hopes it was just having a bad day the day prior. I spent 10mins only upshifting, no issues at all through all gears, nice and smooth. Coming off the highway I decide to introduce downshifts, go from 5th to 2nd. Did it flawlessly. Go to leave the offramp and get locked out of upshifts, so I clutch shift to second then give it some throttle and attempt to shift into 3rd, didn't work for about 4 hard attempts forcing the shifter, it finally got in, tried then did a clunky shift.

I'm unsure if downshifting then triggers an issue with the shifter, then rendering it unusable up or down. It's booked into the shop tomorrow.. I've already been warned it'll be a couple month wait for the quickshifter if it is the module.

Gearbox is nice and smooth just using the clutch, I've inspected the gear selector movement and it's all smooth and without issue. So it's definitely the sensor.
 
#25 ·
This was sorted the next day by the dealer, they said my clutch lever was out if spec so adjusted it. It now no longer wobbles about and actuation feels amazing. Quickshifter has done 400km without issue.

The dealer told Triumph Australia about the issue and Triumph logged it to my bike and said if it happens again just replace the quickshifter under warranty.

I'm very happy with the customer service!!
 
#26 ·
Regarding q/s…I had the same issue. I finally discovered it was a result of too much chain slack, in my case. I would tighten the chain within spec and it was fine for awhile. Then 2-300 miles later I’d start having difficulty shifting again. I finally discovered this was a result of the chain adjustment bolts not being torqued enough. I bought a much better torque wrench, adjusted the chain slack using the MotionPro tool, torqued the bolts correctly and have not had a single issue in the last 5k miles (I have 7.1k on mine already). Also, I did pull the dust boot on the q/s back and filled it with dielectric grease to ensure no water could intrude during washing.
 
#28 ·
Yep! For sure. A few first-gen bugs and glitches - a little disappointing given the price - but still a beauty to ride. It’s not “perfect”, but I think it has real character.

I’m closing in on 10,000 km and still loving every ride. And the harder I ride it, the more I push it, the more I enjoy it. Still amazed at how light it feels.

Doooo ittttttt!
 
#30 ·
I can see this problem was raised in Aug 2021, so was just wondering whether you ever got it resolved? I enabled the shift assist on my 1200RS after getting the first service done. I couldn't believe how brilliant it was - couldn't stop smiling on that first ride with it enabled. Then on my second ride out it started doing what you describe - it would work for about 5 or 10 minutes and then it was if shift assist had been disabled. Every time I stopped and switched the bike off, then got going again it would work for 5 or 10 minutes then stop working altogether. It did this on two consecutive rides. So I was about to contact Triumph to get it looked at, but first I thought I'd disable the shift assist and select the 'Factory Reset' option in the settings menu. I then enabled the shift assist and took the bike out - and hey presto, problem solved, the quick shifter is working perfectly again. Had two rides out on it now making more up and down changes than necessary and it's been impeccable.
 
#35 ·
New issue - had my 1200RS for 4 weeks and just coming up to 600 miles service when I lost gear indicator and quick shift functions. I was down shifting coming into a roundabout and quickshifter failed to work so I had to revert to old school clutch method :). Coming back onto the carriageway the bike gave engine management warning and transmission error but engine was operating fine. Had to continue the ride with manual shifting and no gear number showing on the screen which made selecting neutral more interesting that usual . Bike didn't go to limp mode as far as I could tell - I'm still running it in so was keeping revs under 6k anyhow. Took to dealers today and whilst riding the TCS disabled warning also came up.

Thety diagnosed faulty gear position sensor and will replace under warranty. Part needs ordering in so will not get bike back till next tuesday but I have a 1200RR Courtesy bike to play with in the meantime. Hope the sensor fixes the issues as I was enjoying the RS so far. I did see a number of issues with this sensor covering a number of models so it seems that this part may be particularly prone to failure. Anyhow just wanted to put it out there in case others experience similar issues.

Cheers
 
#36 ·
Maybe an antithesis to all the issues stated above and before… The first 100 miles on my new steed were fractious, anxious and unenjoyable. Staying <4500rpm was a real challenge, everything felt so tight, pressurised and controlled, Eurgh! As soon as the odometer clicked over 100 miles I instantly felt the engine loosen up (literally) and things were suddenly more fun and raucous! Now the first service is complete, she has mutated into a free/smooth revving, overrun-popping and crackling BEAST! I was regretting trading-in the STR3 but now I get it. What an amazing machine.
 
#39 ·
Barely touch kill switch and it kills it.. and then service required then it goes away.



Quickshifter also has issues. Did factory reset so will see after work if it helped.
 
#43 ·
Ok, now I’m getting a bit cheesed-off. Had to take the bike in today as the keyless filler cap wouldn’t shut. Apparently I’ve been doing it all wrong by opening and shutting the filler cap with the ignition off (why would you keep the ignition on to fill up with E10???) and whilst at the dealership, getting it fixed under warranty, noticed the front indicators were full of water… All sorted and replaced without a bat of an eyelid, but now have had all the switchgear on left handlebar replaced due to water ingress, indicators replaced due to water ingress (I don’t jet-wash BTW) and a poor process to simply open the filler cap led to a replacement lock, all in 2 months. They suggested I fork out for the Triumph extended warranty and that seems sensible, but Jesus wept, I shouldn’t have to.
 
#44 ·
I never open and close the filler cap with the ignition on and haven't had any problems. It is quite difficult to close though--I have to push down with a lot of force on the heel of my hand, but it always locks in place.

I haven't had mine out in the rain yet, but you have me worried. Is there something different about the replacement switchgear and turn signals that will now keep the water out?