Why are they doing that?

 

because they know something that i also know.......

 

Come on man, your killing us. Whats the go with the Tokicos?

I would like the six potters but i would probably do it with a front end change. The originals work ok...

Cheers,

Roden

 

Tokico sixers with a 5/8" MC are better than the Nissin 4-pots that fit our bikes. The Nissin 4-pots are very, very good, but the Tokicos are better.

The Kawasaki people who have a clue are swapping front ends & ending up with 4-pot radial mount Nissins. The Kwaka people swapping their Tokico 6-pots for circumferential mount Nissin 4-pots are missing the point like Kanye West on South Park.

Cheers,
-Kit

 

there is no denying that the 6 pots are good, but the kwak owners are having big issues with keeping them clean enough to function properly over here in the uk, they (or the ones that i know who have done the change) say that they keep binding, or just not getting enough feel, and reckon that when they switch to the 4 pots they are getting better feel, and more power (i suppose a m/c for 6 pots which then has 4 pots put on instead might do this)

 

Done the six pot conversion

Have just converted to six pot Tokicos a couple of weeks ago - loads more feel and bags of two finger power - winter is just about finished so will probably have to wait a while to see about the dirt/binding side of things but don't think I will going back to the 4 pots in a hurry.

 

More on my six pots

Just thought I should add - I have a Trophy but have replaced the forks with items from a 1200 Daytona - adjustable and not so mushy. Also changed the exhausts, front and rear pegs/hangers/levers, handlebars, clocks, and top fairing so for all intents and purposes it is pretty much a Daytona (just waiting for my rear caliper/torque arm in the post)

 

my 98 TLR trackbike has 6 pot tokicos. I rebuilt them with new seals and they are binding again. I added a radial master cylinder because they lack power and feel.

my 94 ST has 4 pot nissins. I think they're the DB's. They have excellent power and feel on a standard master cylinder and I run them with HH pads to aftermarket/replacement discs.

I have thought about swapping the 6 pots on the TLR and I will. I think the 4 pot suzuki SRADs are a straight swap. There's no way I'd want those crap 6 pot tokicos on my ST!!

 

How odd. The only caliper design I've had consistent problems with is the Nissin twin-pot slider. (I think we can all agree that that one is pure ****e.)

The 6-pots on my RS sat out all Winter, and we had a particularly snowy (and therefore salty) Winter. I am having no problems at all with them, aside from finally approaching the end of pad life.

To each his own, I guess... Drop me a PM if you want to buy the 4-pot Nissins I pulled off my RS.

Cheers,
-Kit

 

's funny - I took the tokicos off the other day and put the old 4 pots on so that I could ride over the weekend and clean the 6 pots during the week. Yes, the 4 pots aren't quite as strong, but you soon get used to them again and they worked just fine over the Alps and back on a 9 hour ride. Might leave them on for my trip into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in a couple of weeks. Also read a couple of complaints about the 6 pots warping discs, although I doubt that that would happen w/ a Daytona cf. a Hayabusa

 

I made the swap to the 6 pots on the 900 some time ago and felt like they made a big difference. I haven't made the swap on the RS yet; the 4 pot calipers seem to have better feel and stopping power on the RS, even though they're the same calipers as on the 900.

 

lets not forget that if braking efficency was purly down to the number of pots, we would all be runiing 30 pot calipers!
lol
i dont seriously think we would, but it makes my point pretty well.ie, there are other things that make a caliper good, not just the number of pistons.