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Street Triple - Dart Manta versus OEM fly screen side-by-side comparison

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#1 ·
Just installed Darta Manta yesterday and took some pics to compare it with OEM screen. Hope this will help someone decide between the two in the future.



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#3 ·
My personal opinion on OEM and Manta:

OEM:
  • Designed to integrate with STR. It looks exceptionally nice on the bike.
  • Quality is awesome. Mine was on the bike for year and a half and it still looks as good as new.
  • Plastic is thick and substantial. It doesn't look cheap (after all it is $300 new from Triumph).
  • Provides minimal wind protection. It's main job is to improve STR front headlights profile (which everyone hates except us ST owners).
  • Exactly matches the color of the bike.

Dart Manta:
  • Significantly bigger than OEM screen. Provides some wind protection. If you are 6' tall (like me), wind will hit you in the upper chest area.
  • Clearly designed as a generic screen to be used on bunch of different bikes. Doesn't look as nice as OEM on the bike.
  • Fit and finish is not as good as OEM. OEM fly screen hides all the cables under it. On Manta you can see cables behind the fly screen.
  • Plastic feels cheap. I just installed it, so I can't tell you how well this will hold in the future, but compared to OEM it just feels cheap.
  • Finally, the biggest flaw in Manta is that it touches the front brake lever on R model when handle is completely turned to the left.

In the picture below, I set lever to its lowest setting (6) and pushed it as far right on the handlebar as I could, but it still touched the flyscreen. I could hear the click on front brake before I moved it down to 6th (lowest) setting. If it accidentally hits the brake, this could be a safety issue. I plan to reach out to Dart on this and see what they say.

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#16 · (Edited)
My personal opinion on OEM and Manta:

OEM:
  • Designed to integrate with STR. It looks exceptionally nice on the bike.
  • Quality is awesome. Mine was on the bike for year and a half and it still looks as good as new.
  • Plastic is thick and substantial. It doesn't look cheap (after all it is $300 new from Triumph).
  • Provides minimal wind protection. It's main job is to improve STR front headlights profile (which everyone hates except us ST owners).
  • Exactly matches the color of the bike.

Dart Manta:
  • Significantly bigger than OEM screen. Provides some wind protection. If you are 6' tall (like me), wind will hit you in the upper chest area.
  • Clearly designed as a generic screen to be used on bunch of different bikes. Doesn't look as nice as OEM on the bike.
  • Fit and finish is not as good as OEM. OEM fly screen hides all the cables under it. On Manta you can see cables behind the fly screen.
  • Plastic feels cheap. I just installed it, so I can't tell you how well this will hold in the future, but compared to OEM it just feels cheap.
  • Finally, the biggest flaw in Manta is that it touches the front brake lever on R model when handle is completely turned to the left.

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Solve one problem, create three new ones.

Normally I don't advocate the idea of "throwing out the baby with the bath water", but the reality is that everything hanging off the front end on the Street Triple (save the gauge cluster) is pretty much dead weight. Aesthetics aside, converting to a single headlight opens up a new world of options for lighting and wind protection. Not to mention the fact that it sheds weight from a very advantageous location on the bike.

Here's mine with a JW Speaker 8700 Evolution 2 LED headlamp and a Puig universal windscreen:

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The Puig was only $50, and mounts were simple to fabricate. And it worked better than any of the Street Triple-specific windscreens I tried. Maybe too well, actually. Made riding at 80+ mph all too comfortable.

Anyway, you would be wise not to put your controls in an uncomfortable position just to get some wind off your chest. Some things are worth compromising.. ergonomics isn't one of them.
 
#4 ·
Just rotate your levers down. They shouldn't be that high anyway, it puts your hand and wrist at a bad angle and it uncomfortable. Rotating them down (do both) will straighten your wrist. Your welcome.
 
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Just curious,have you heard anything from Dart?
Yep. Got a response back from them yesterday. Basically, they recommend to rotate the handlebar back. I have attached screenshot of their response to this post.

I will try it over the weekend and see if it works or not.
 

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#11 ·
So as per Dart's recommendation I tried to move my handlebar back and it doesn't make any difference. The brake lever still touches the windscreen. Going to email them back again. Hope they have a better solution.

It's a good thing I didn't sell my OEM windscreen.
 
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I'm just surprised to hear that anyone is comfortable with the flat orientation of the levers as they come off the showroom floor, and the awkward way the force one to cup their wrists. Mine were getting rotated down whether or not I put the Dart screen on.
 
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I like the triumph fly screen that luckily came with my used and improved Street Triple but agree it does little work in reducing wind at 80 and above. I bought a uswd triumph visor that mounts to the fly screen giving a precious few more inches of sanctuary I hope.
As far as the Manta if you like it and want to keep your levers as they are, then take out the dremel and mini drum sander and get to work on it.
These are street fighters and we can damn well personalize them.
Puig looks good too.
 

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#20 ·
So I took the flyscreen to USPS and return shipping to Dart is $50. Kudos to Dart for free shipping, but if you are going to send it back from the US, you will lose half of your money in just shipping alone.

I feel like Dart should have been more clear about this limitation on their site. If I knew this, I wouldn't purchase it in the first place. For the price, I expected it to fit without any issues. I am sure I can MacGvyer it eventually to work, but right out of the box this screen doesn't work on 2013+ Street Triple R .

I put the OEM flyscreen on the bike again.
 
#21 ·
But...It can be made to work with just one simple alteration to the bike, if one is willing to make it. I've added a lot of aftermarket bits to a lot of bikes, and very few of them fit perfectly without some work and willingness to be flexible.