I've seen discussions like this one going back the the early 2000s on Delphi.

All it would take is a team of a dozen people spending many hours a day searching old posts on 384 forums, pages and groups, downloading all the listed faults, then a few years proofing, correcting (because they're not all correct) and compiling them into a proper searchable database, then publishing it.

Piece of cake!

 

Pass me a fork will you, GP? I'm ready to dig in.

The task might not be quite as monumental as you propose. I think a search of two forums would suffice, and I'm guessing that there are lots of people who have lists or marked-up parts books with entries ready to go. And even if the project only resulted in shining light on 50% of the errors that would be better than what is currently available.

Also, vendors who sponsor the forum may have lists that could be tapped into.

Can I have a little ice cream with my cake?

 

Would it be better to send to an email or the like, you could easily swamp the forum?
Any flavour of ice cream?

 

Would it be better to send to an email or the like, you could easily swamp the forum?

WOW! An OPTIMIST!

I really don't think it'll happen on this forum, but wouldn't tax the host resources anyway.

If a miracle occurred and there was a 100% discovery, it would amount to the equivalent of less than 4 or 5 hours of typical daily input forum-wide.

 

Mick - strawberry blonde would be delicious!

errors@hermit.cc (all return addresses kept completely confidential)

or for those that prefer - private message

Initially I will adapt one of the many database programs that i've previously written. I'll write a routine to publish database as a web page - with error entries sorted by source document. This would be easy to either browse or search using a browser's search function, or download for local use.

If you got 'em, send 'em!

cheers -

 

Excellent info.

Both www.vintagebikemagazine.com & partsbooks.britishonly.com have with SOME of their parts books listed with the US factory corrections and update. The British Only site also has an area devoted to Triumph Service Bulletins. Also Triumph Parts, Tools, and Accessory Bulletins

I feel you are opening a can of worms as how will you account for Mid Year or running changes?

Examples 1970 T120/120R used both Grey and Black faced speedo/tach gauges, Three different lifting handles, Horns 60-2256/2257 (Clear Hooter #SF725L/SF725H) & 60-2623/2624 (Clear Hooter HF80l/HF80H) used after approx. January 1,1970, license plate extender and assorted bits with it. Some time in May 1970 the transmission plunger was changed to a leaf spring unit. Then you have the parts book page 36/37 items 18,19,20 showing studs & nuts attaching the rare frame section to the front and one front motor mount location while items 28,29,30 were used in both locations. By the way those fasteners were all inserted from the D/S NOT the T/S as in the drawings While on page number 38/39 item 40 of the 1970 book part number F5687 (82 5687) is shown as the brake switch lever while F5412 (82 5412) was actually used.... and 1969 fork assemblies were used up until AD34763 and again on units AD35763 thru AD38464. Then you have the Canadian model T120 that used Stainless Fenders and black stays not the painted fenders and chrome stays. With the exception of the horns and Canadian T120 fenders this would also apply to TR6/TR6R/TR6C models

K 😷

 

Hey K,

In reference to page 36/37 part numbers 18,19, 20
my 1970 had a bolt vice stud for rear frame attachment. AFlAIK this was stock on my "unmolested bike". Could have been changed by a previous owner from the stud. There is no part number for a bolt being used on my bike so replaced it with the stud IAW the parts book.

As noted in another thread here by me I did not use the stud for the front engine mount per parts book. It was way too long and the threads on both sides stuck out too far for my tastes and didn't look right. Went with using part numbers 28, 29, and 30. All front engine mount through the plate are now these. Looks much better and what I had on the bike when I got it although not all the bolts there were original. I did reverse the bolts per your comment and discussion in my thread about this.

I found that the rear brake switch part number (for part 40 pages 38/39) was incorrect also. I ordered this part per part number F5687 and found that it would not fully tighten around the brake opersting rod. Used my old one as did not know what to get. Thanks for the correct part number now.

Best Regards,

Senior

 

Kadutz,

Can I have ice cream with my worms?

You've expanded the field somewhat with the addition of changes as well as errors, although in many cases an undocumented change is just as bad as an error, eh?

In any case I wouldn't have any problem including all the info in your list in a database as long as the info was complete.

A few things to keep in mind about databases - in addition to being as complete and accurate as possible, information has to be put into standardized forms for it to become fully useful. Anther consideration would be conciseness and brevity -there would be a certain limit to the number of characters devoted to descriptions, for example.

Consider for a moment all the parts lists on my website. I entered all that data by hand into a database program that I wrote specifically for Triumph motorcycle parts. Of course I only had to enter it once - into the database - and then I had only to code various routines to generate all the html pages you see on hermit.cc. Have to give it some thought, but I would consider using that same program for errors. Once the data is entered, it could be presented in html by both source (parts books) and by part numbers, Database is a lot of work (i'm not afraid of work), but the results are very powerful.

Kadutz, I spent 2-1/2 hours putting your list into a format that I could work with. There's still quite a bit of information missing, but it would make a great start towards something that would be truly useful to a very wide community. Fill in the blanks and post it here - I'll slam it into a dbf.

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-Replacement Parts Catalogue 1970~Part 1 USA Edition; (??page,ref for speedo and tach) Both Grey & Blk faced speedo/tach used.

-Replacement Parts Catalogue 1970~Part 1 USA Edition; 3 dif lifting handles (??page,ref,part# for all 3 handles - + if possible order or ser # of introduction)

-Replacement Parts Catalogue 1970~Part 1 USA Edition (??,page,ref) 60-2256/2257 Clear Hooter #SF725L/SF725H: changed aft Jan 1, 1970 to 60-2623/2624 (Clear Hooter HF80l/HF80H)

?License plate extender and assorted bits with it. (?? more details + pp, refs, part#s)

-Replacement Parts Catalogue 1970~Part 1 USA Edition; pp.26/27, ref.4, 57-3660 camplate index plunger, changed May 1970 to leaf spring (??part# for leaf spring + (ideally) source, page,ref for leaf spring if it appears in a later parts book)

-(??Source title); pp.36/37 ref 18,19,20 (??part#s) studs & nuts attaching the rear frame section to the front and one front motor mount location (???)
while ref 28,29,30 were used in both locations (??page,ref).
(?? I'd need more clarity on this. What's the problem with pp 36/37 refs 18,19,20? And what two locations are we talking about?)

-(??source); pp.36/37 ref 18,19,20 (??part#s) [Those fasteners] inserted from D/S, not T/S as shown.

-Replacement Parts Catalogue 1970~Part 1 USA Edition; pp 38/39, ref 40, Brake switch lever. Listed as F5687 (82-5687), should be F5412 (82- 5412)

-(?? source,page,ref, part# that source shows for (?? 1970 fork assy): (??part# for 1969 fork assembly) used before AD34763 & AD35763 thru AD38464
(?? i didn't check these serial #'s - are they for 1970 machines?)

-(??Source,page,ref,part#s for fenders and stays) Cdn T120: stainless fenders/black stays lieu of painted fenders/chrome stays

-With the exception of the horns and Canadian T120 fenders this would also apply to TR6/TR6R/TR6C models
(?? so if page and/or ref differ from those of T120, I'd need those to create entries for those models, just as in the parts books)
--------------------------------------------------------------

 

Kadutz,

Can I have ice cream with my worms?

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Kadutz, I spent 2-1/2 hours putting your list into a format that I could work with. There's still quite a bit of information missing, but it would make a great start towards something that would be truly useful to a very wide community. Fill in the blanks and post it here - I'll slam it into a dbf.

Bruce

You can have Ice cream, .frozen yogurt, or tapioca pudding with your worms. Then there is also a nice rice pudding but if your worms are white it might cause confusion what is in what dish.....

I printed out your post #8 of this thread to make notes of what you asked. May take a few days as I am running at half throttle. I will tell you some of the information you are asking about is not readily available. But we will see what can be accomplished.

K 😷

 

Wow.

Very nice indeed.

Keep up the good work.

 

Oh dear. Have I set a hare running?

 

The bolt originally on the bike for the rear frame and now the stud and the front engine mount bolts using now. There were some other things I found with the 1970 parts manual I have that are not correct, but.....here's a couple:

Page 80/81 part number 21 part number 54957095 lists (99-0000) vice (99-1121).

And as pointed here numerous times the parts manual page 20/21omits the sleeve band which is 71-1707.

If I am out of line here please let me know. I can send PMs on things I found rebuilding the bike.

 

The bolt originally on the bike for the rear frame and now the stud and the front engine mount bolts using now. There were some other things I found with the 1970 parts manual I have that are not correct, but.....here's a couple:

Page 80/81 part number 21 part number 54957095 lists (99-0000) vice (99-1121).

And as pointed here numerous times the parts manual page 20/21omits the sleeve band which is 71-1707.

If I am out of line here please let me know. I can send PMs on things I found rebuilding the bike.

RMCS(SS)
Great stuff - not out of line at all! I will accept emails or PMs but the best way might be to post corrections right to this thread the way you did. That way everyone will have a chance to see them and perhaps add additional info or make corrections before they goes into the database.

I'm a little pressed for time at the moment, but I took a few of your submissions and formatted them the way I'd like to receive the info ideally. These should serve as additional examples. Send me the correct part # for that brake switch and these three are ready to go!
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I found that the rear brake switch part number (for part 40 pages 38/39) was incorrect also. I ordered this part per part number F5687 and found that it would not fully tighten around the brake opersting rod. Used my old one as did not know what to get. Thanks for the correct part number now.

Error submission:

Triumph Replacement Catalogue 1970 USA, 39,40,F5687,??-????,Incorrect part# shown for brake switch, use ??-????

Just missing the correct part number – shoot it over to me and this is good to go!

-----------------------------------------------------

And as pointed here numerous times the parts manual page 20/21omits the sleeve band which is 71-1707

Error submission:

Triumph Replacement Catalogue 1970 USA, 20, , ,71-1707, Book omits 71-1707 Sleeve AKA “wedding band” from drawing & list. See Triumph Parts Catalogue for 1971 USA p.20 ref.54

If this looks good to you it’s ready to go!

-----------------------------------------------------

Page 80/81 part number 21 part number 54957095 lists (99-0000) vice (99-1121)

Error submission:

Triumph Replacement Catalogue 1970 USA, 81, 21 , , 54957095, Parts list shows 99-0000 for 54957095 Wiring harness – should be 99-1121

If this looks good to you it’s ready to go into the database!

 

Hi All,
Many hands make light work. We could do this if enough people are willing to get behind it and chip in the relatively modest effort required to send me their submissions.

A good deal of the work will fall upon me. I am very willing to do it, but it would lighten my load considerably if folks would make their submissions in a particular format, which I've documented in the graphic below. It might look complicated at first, but it's really quite simple. If you've benefited by the forum here's your chance to make a contribution and give back!

Follow the format as best you can - I will make adjustments or corrections if necessary. Also. let me know if you don't want me to include your forum Handle as the source for an error correction.

 

Well, the project is launched! Get out your parts books and start submitting those errors.

Do the best you can with the format - it's what's called "comma-delimited" and it will allow me to import your submissions into the database without re-typing them. The two most important things are 1) Correct order of the fields, and 2) including all the necessary commas, even the ones that separate empty fields.

Come on - give it a shot! I will make corrections to your submissions as needed.

I would hope to publish a preliminary list by the end of the coming week.

NOTE: My ISP (the infamous XplorNet) just notified me that they will be doing maintenance tomorrow between 8am and 10pm, so I may not have Internet access tomorrow (Monday 24 Jan), but I will already be working away here.

We all want it! And we can GET IT !

Cheers

 

Hi StuartMac -

Thanks for this! I never noticed that itty-bitty little part number at the bottom of the parts catalogues! I will include this in the source descriptions.

I figured that an error that appears in a US edition parts book probably appears in the UK edition as well - but I don't know that for a fact so I thought I'd pursue those multiple instances later after I confirmed them. Can we say definitively that errors in one edition always appear in the other? If so that would save me a lot of work.

I'm coding a new program for the errors database and I've already included a command to duplicate records. If all the info in one edition is the same as in another edition (i.e. pages, references, figures, etc) then I'll be able to just duplicate a record and then select a different edition from a pick-list for the duplicate. I'm writing this program as a flat-file database, not as relational, because I don't anticipate great numbers of records - less than 10 or 20,000 records is practically negligible from the standpoint of database volume.

I see how convoluted this stuff can get, but i've dealt with details in many different applications in many fields over the years so i'm confident that it can all be dealt with. I shouldn't have any problem representing errors whether they occur in parts books, SBs, or WS Manuals, etc. The biggest difficulty I can see is to create succinct descriptions for the situations. Right now I've allocated only 120 characters for error descriptions, but the first thing i'm going to do tomorrow is boost that up to around 300 chars.

The new program has been named, by the way - at the suggestion of my wife - STG.EXE - Saint George the Error Slayer.

Still a lot of work to do before I get there, but I'm looking forward to coding the reports. I'm thinking lists that are ordered by Source (handy for going through one's own parts book and marking up the errors), as well as by both part numbers that are incorrect and part numbers that have been upgraded.

 

Hi Bruce,

Can we say definitively that errors in one edition always appear in the other? If so that would save me a lot of work.

Ha! We wish ... uh-uh, if you read my post #21 again, you'll see I've detailed just the different O-ring part numbers in just different editions of the '70 twins' parts books ...

I'm coding a new program for the errors database and I've already included a command to duplicate records. If all the info in one edition is the same as in another edition (i.e. pages, references, figures, etc) then I'll be able to just duplicate a record and then select a different edition from a pick-list for the duplicate.

I've checked just the '70 UK&GE and US 650 parts books (99-0901 and 99-0903 part 1), 75 and 81 pages respectively, so page numbers'll change, the 99-0904 T150 book will likely have different page numbers again, and I see different item numbers on the same drawings ...

Hth.

Regards,

 

Hi StuartMac,
I'm pretty much prepared for there being nothing easy about any of this. Hey, aren't life's little problems what make things interesting?

Folks shouldn't worry about conforming to the comma-delimited format - I'm going to end up typing everything in by hand anyway. I'm only asking for 6 fields of info but in reality I'm inputting 11 (additional fields include providing Alpha and Numeric versions of all part numbers as well as a couple other fieldsJ) and what I discovered last night was that it takes more time and effort to doctor up the comma-delimited records then it does to just type the stuff in through the program's user interface.

I'm about to get booted off my iternet connection - but I will be programming all day. I'd like to get a page up on the Web as soon as possible so people can consult it to see whether or not a particular error has already been entered.

Coffee... coffee!

 

Been slugging away for almost 12 hours and quite pleased with results so far:

Plenty of work left, but it's a good start. Hope to have at least one or two bare-bones web pages up by the end of tomorrow.

As you can see, i've added several fields - 14 in all now, plus the queues. The extra fields will allow the error list to be published in a variety of formats, including lists of errors ordered by part numbers (both alpha and numeric), source document, source document types (parts catalogues, ws man, SBs, etc), and type of error (all omissions, all transpositions, etc).

I still need only the six basic pieces of info that I mentioned in a post above - I will fill in all the rest. (I'm looking forward to programming an auto-part number converter!)

I noticed today that among my collection of 6 parts books some have part number on the title page or nearby, but several don't. Is it just the copies that I have, or did Triumph not give them all part numbers? Ideally I'd like to include one for each part book because it makes a positive ID.

Going to grab a bite to eat and get back to work.

 

I noticed today that among my collection of 6 parts books some have part number on the title page or nearby, but several don't. Is it just the copies that I have, or did Triumph not give them all part numbers? Ideally I'd like to include one for each part book because it makes a positive ID.

All Triumph Parts Books have a part number many have it on the inside cover page, Some have it on the Cover. Some may not have it but there is a part number assigned to the book. Some will have a published date some do not. As you go from website to website looking at Parts Books there will different books for the same Machine. If you can identify what is on the cover of the books you are unsure of we can probably come up with a part number.

K 😷

Oh dear. Have I set a hare running?

Possibly. 🙃 I wonder if this thread will go longer than when we had Two Forums Two Threads going on T120RT's. Results we got the AMA to admit they DID have a record of the VIN and they would confirm specific VIN's
What the heck its cold out and everybody is on lock down

K 😷

 

Hi K,
The program has pop-up pick-lists for Source documents, Type of source documents, and Type of errors.

Here are the entries I have for Source documents so far and the info I have on each:

Parts #3 USA 916/64 (1965)
Parts #4 USA xx-xxxx (1966)DU24875
Parts #5 996/66 (1967)DU44394
Parts #6 OVERSEAS xx-xxx (1968)DU66246
Parts #7 USA SPC7 (1969)DU85904
Parts 1970~Part1 USA 99-0903
Parts 1971 USA+UK&GEN SUPP 99-0932
WS MAN 1969 99-0889 DU85904

I'd like also to include the serial numbers covered by each source document - some of mine have it, some don't. I'd be glad to have any missing info as well as add any Parts Manuals, WS Manuals, etc that anyone would care to send along.

Hoping others will start contributing some info - I mean, how hard is it to write down the info off your parts book title page and post it!

 

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Hi K,
The program has pop-up pick-lists for Source documents, Type of source documents, and Type of errors.

Here are the entries I have for Source documents so far and the info I have on each:

Parts #3 USA 916/64 (1965)
Parts #4 USA xx-xxxx (1966)DU24875
Parts #5 996/66 (1967)DU44394
Parts #6 OVERSEAS xx-xxx (1968)DU66246
Parts #7 USA SPC7 (1969)DU85904
Parts 1970~Part1 USA 99-0903
Parts 1971 USA+UK&GEN SUPP 99-0932
WS MAN 1969 99-0889 DU85904

I'd like also to include the serial numbers covered by each source document - some of mine have it, some don't. I'd be glad to have any missing info as well as add any Parts Manuals, WS Manuals, etc that anyone would care to send along.

Hoping others will start contributing some info - I mean, how hard is it to write down the info off your parts book title page and post it!

Below is a listing of part books from 1963 thru 1971 for the 650 Twin models I sincerely hope this has the information you were looking for. With regard to your request for starting to ending VIN numbers I have shown the beginning VIN's for each item. I did not show ending VIN's as I have found published lists do have their problems. The best they do is place you into a 'ball park area' Also the 500 Twin and 650 Twin VIN's were somewhat intertwined. as an example for 1970 model year JD 27849 would be a 650 Twin while JD 27850 would be a 500 Twin. A Lot of 500's would be built and then more 650's. This kind of VIN mixing appears to have started during the 1969 model year when the new 'Dating/Alpha' VIN'S were introduced. Also there were many Service/ Parts Bulletins issued dealing with errors or corrections to the Parts Books needless to say while a few are listed below not all are shown.

Parts Book 823/63 covers 1963 UK/General Export & US 650 models starting VIN DU 101 This is listed as Catalogue 1 and is strictly a parts listing as there are no parts diagrams

Parts Book 873/64 covers 1964 UK/General Export 650 models starting VIN 5825 This is listed as Catalogue 2. 1964 US model differences are covered by a Triumph Corporation (Towson) Service Bulletin #7 (dated June 1, 1964)

Parts Book 916/64 covers 1965 UK/General Export 650 models starting VIN DU 13375 This is listed as Catalogue 3
1965 US Model differences are covered by a Supplement to Catalogue 3 (part number unknown)

Parts Book 16/67 covers 1966 UK/General Export & US 650 models starting with VIN DU 24875 This is listed as Catalogue 4

Parts Book 996/66 covers 1967 UK/General Export & US 650 models starting with VIN DU 44394 This is listed as Catalogue 5

Parts Book SPC1 covers 1968 UK/General Export 650 models starting with VIN DU 66246 both OVERSEAS & UK editions are listed as Catalogue 6

Parts Book 32/67 covers 1968 OVERSEAS (US) 650 models starting with VIN DU 66246 both OVERSEAS & UK editions are listed as Catalogue 6

Parts Book SPC7 covers 1969 US 650 models starting with VIN DU 85904 both US & UK books are listed as Catalogue #7

Parts Book SPC9 covers 1969 UK/General Export 650 models from DU85904 both US & UK books are listed as Catalogue #7

Parts Book 99-0901 cover 1970 UK/General Export 650 models starting with VIN JD24848 I is also referred to as Catalogue #8 This appears to be the last one with a Catalogue number assigned

Parts Book 99-0903 covers 1970 US Models both 650 & 500 Twins. The 650's are in Section one and the 500's are in Section 2 To the best of my knowledge was issued in a loose leaf notebook ( That is the style I have) There is no separate part number for the 500 as 99-0903 covers the entire book. I have seen the 500 Twin Section referred to as 99-0902 AND 99-903.5 VIN numbers for the 650's start at JD 24848 while the 500's start at HD27850
Triumph Corporation (Towson) Parts Bulletin #70/P2 dated January 30,1970 Lists correction to loose leaf Parts Catalogue #99-0903 Part1 B Range. It is 6 pages long .

Parts Book 99-0932 covers 1971 650 Models This book is supposed to have a supplement covering UK/ General Export Models that I have never seen. Starting with VIN NE 01436

WORKSHOP MANUAL #99-0889 covers all 650 Twins from 1963 thru 1970 Starting with VIN DU 101

K 😷

 

A few rough edges, but so far so good.

Errors listed by source document and page number

i got a sore neck!

 

Columbanus is named in the Roman Martyrology on 23 November, which is his feast day in Ireland. His feast is observed by the Benedictines on 21 November. Columbanus is the patron saint of motorcyclists.

 

Busy hands are happy hands........

K 😷

 

 

Well, if Columbanus wants to help he's certainly welcome!

Over the previous 3 days I've invested 40 hours in the project, and another 3 this morning. This has to be the quickest I've ever coded an application. But of course it's not finished by far. Probably about 6 hours has been spent downloading parts books and looking up part info and entering the data in the program.

This morning I worked out a way of presenting errors even if I know some of the info I have is incomplete or incorrect. Scroll down the list and you'll see several errors whose page numbers, references, and figures are flagged in red. Those pages, refs, and figs come from a different parts book edition so they are close, but probably slightly different for the displayed edition. If anyone would like to provide the correct info for those it would be greatly appreciated.

Parts book errors listing by parts book

It takes two keystrokes in my program to generate a refreshed report and three double-clicks to beam it up to my server.

Right now I'm going to have breakfast and then split some kindling because my wife told me this morning that in pioneer days a failure to provide one's wife with dry kindling was grounds for divorce. I can take a hint.

Here's what the program user interface is looking like

 

Now if you can code for a smartphone app and/or online entry form that gives you one-line entries/replies in sequence to fill out a new form, you'll be over the top!

 

I don't do 'smart phones' GrandPaul, but an online entry form is a great idea. I've always been looking for an excuse to play around with SQL database online. Back burner for now, but definitely something to look into.

 

As Lorena Bobbitt said HAPPY WIFE HAPPY LIFE

K 😷

 

Excellent project, bit of a Wiki scent to it with lots of scope assuming it's going to cover a defined limited period in the first instance, many hundreds of mistakes were published. I can't see it being more accurate given the expertise available here. But there is a caveat, that only a handful of experienced people know a particular model/s thoroughly enough to identify and accurately peer review inclusions, drawing on both empirical and data sources, without which, it can not be definitive, which is presumably the aim. It may be an idea to also define the limit of it's scope, but that may come as a result of it's composition.

If there were one thing better than a cross reference data base, it would be a Re-Issue of new e-parts list identified applicable by Country, Region, Model, & Engine Start No. giving the revised data to emulate known Publication dates, Book Issue and book Part No. Series; I don't see why any one single model year book can not be constructed to do this, albeit, perhaps as a larger than original volume giving accurate / revised / alternate part No's. revised graphics and notes or hyperlinks. Pdf's written from a source file can accommodate all of this, and include peer signing. Revisions, purely as a data base, I feel will otherwise not be entirely accurate or easily usable without applying difficult to reference side notes buried in accompanying data, although Bruce may well have an answer to this.

Most facets of lineage are covered in existing parts books, but not all, and I suspect Triumph were deliberately vague on some issues to accommodate planning, and of course the rush to get books out in time to accommodate as many current and late modifications as possible. What we know as margin notes (official or owner) were never referenced or verified, and many were outright wrong or just confused the issue unless (sometimes) read in conjunction with un-referenced Bulletins that relied on astute part managers to know of, perhaps another reason for revised publication - the benefit of hindsight. Should Bruce see this as practicable I would be happy to help coalesce the data into a working document.

 

Hi,

Re-Issue of new e-parts list

You would need to examine the copyright issue. When John Nelson printed workshop manuals and parts books, he wanted to update and correct them. Vetoed by Hinckley.

Regards,

 

Freakmaster -
I'm sure there will be more bases to be covered, but I'm pretty confident they all can be.

I have included a few rudimentary fields for tracking contributions (contributor, date added, dates edited) and will add more as the need arises.

I'm going to add a cover sheet to the online web page for explanations and eventually probably a FAQ type of document.

Stepwise refinement is the name of the game. A start has been made, I hope some momentum can be developed. Thanks for your comments and suggestions!

 

Hi Bruce,

I'm sure you have these parts books, but just in case:

1972 T100R and T100C is 99-0954, 1st ed Sep 71, my ed November 71. AFAIK this is the UK & GE book.
1973 T140V TR7RV USA Edition: 99-0980. 2nd Ed, Jan 1973.

Andy

 

K, Andy - great work! Thanks so much! Exactly the kind of info I'm looking for. If possible I will put all these into the document table and code a little report to display them on a web page before the end of the day, although my number one priority today is to get back to my daily x-country ski! Yesterday was my 6th consecutive 12+ hour day working on the project.

 

Yesterday was my 6th consecutive 12+ hour day working on the project.

Let's see, what's the opposite of feint of heart, but just short of obsessive/compulsive?

You are that, Bruce.