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New Tiger 1200 - Biggest Gripes/Problems

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#1 ·
I thought it would be helpful to prospective buyers for current owners to solidify the biggest gripes/issues/problems they have since receiving their new Tiger 1200s. Maybe share some fixes, too? Some of the biggest complaints of reviewers that I can think of:

1. peg/handlebar vibrations at certain constant RPMs (maybe someone can chime in as to what RPMs/engine load & if there is a fix?)

2. key fob not working

3. onboard GPS foibles

4. odd tire sizes

5. blurry mirrors at speed
 
#2 ·
1). No question that is true. I was able to take an 80 mile demo ride before I bought, so there were no surprises, I don’t really notice the handlebar vibrations but know there are some. My hands do get a little numb/ tingly at times but no worse than any motorcycle I’ve owned including the other two I have now. Cruise control makes it a non issue for me.

2). Never had a problem. I wonder if people don’t realize it turns on and off. Even my salesman didn’t realize that and he had to go ask the service manager when he delivered the bike.

3). I’ve used mine three times now. Not a problem for me so far.

4). I agree that it limits options.

5). Agree
 
#10 ·
Owner since July 22, 8500 km to date. Coming from a cruiser bike.
No vibrations whatsoever, no numb hands, nothing that would make me feel annoyed.
Key fob never works when turned off. Works every time when green light is on. There is way to start the bike even when key fob is dead in the manual.
I realise that GPS can be tricky to setup first time but once you connect it properly works like a charm.
I have counted 5 premium brands that offer tire sizes to fit. Local availability could be an issue if you live remotely.
Blurry mirrors at speeds higher to 140-150 km/h yes. If you ride at these speeds then blurry mirrors are not your main issue. Police is. I have seen better aftermarket ones online they could fit the GT/Rally Pro but not the Explorer.
Only issue i had was the windscreen dropping from top position to bottom 1-2 clicks at a time on rough terrain or speed bumps. Dealer fixed it by tightening 4 screws.
There was a stalling issue before the 1000 km service. Fixed by updating the software
 
#12 ·
Owner since July 22, 8500 km to date. Coming from a cruiser bike.
No vibrations whatsoever, no numb hands, nothing that would make me feel annoyed.
Key fob never works when turned off. Works every time when green light is on. There is way to start the bike even when key fob is dead in the manual.
I realise that GPS can be tricky to setup first time but once you connect it properly works like a charm.
I have counted 5 premium brands that offer tire sizes to fit. Local availability could be an issue if you live remotely.
Blurry mirrors at speeds higher to 140-150 km/h yes. If you ride at these speeds then blurry mirrors are not your main issue. Police is. I have seen better aftermarket ones online they could fit the GT/Rally Pro but not the Explorer.
Only issue i had was the windscreen dropping from top position to bottom 1-2 clicks at a time on rough terrain or speed bumps. Dealer fixed it by tightening 4 screws.
There was a stalling issue before the 1000 km service. Fixed by updating the software
Are you saying your bike has no vibration at all in the handlebars and foot pegs, or are you just saying it does not bother you? I’d bet all the money I have that it does. It is because of the engine design and that Triumph did not see it as a priority to quell the vibrations. They are there and they are not going away.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Hello! I am also a satisfied owner of a 2022 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer. I'm 5.84 feet tall and have a problem adjusting the level of my rear view mirrors. These are not ordinary motorcycle mirrors, they have built-in LED indicators for the blind spot monitoring system. And the mounts of these special mirrors are duplicated with the mounts for the throttle, clutch and brake levers, rotate with them and have an extremely small adjustment range for a comfortable rear view. For me this is a real problem! I also confirm that there is a slight vibration on the steering wheel at about 90 miles per hour. But this is not a significant problem and can be solved by installing end weights on the handlebar. I also had a serious breakdown of the electronic ignition lock, which led to the failure of the entire electronics of the motorcycle (I described this in a separate post). Otherwise, I feel complete satisfaction from owning this bike. Besides him, I drive my Indian Scout and BMW K1600GTL
 
#14 ·
I remembered another trouble associated with the aerodynamic cutout of the windshield of the new Tiger 1200. Spray from bees crashing against the windshield and from various fatty insects is pulled into this gap by the wind flow and all this flies into the rider's chest and helmet. Now I'm waiting for a new windshield from Puig, I'll write my impressions.
 
#20 · (Edited)
I have been eyeing a black Tiger 1200GT Explorer the dealer has had since late last summer. I don't like that the bike have 27 test ride miles but it looks like it just came out of the crate. They are offering me a crazy discount in addition to the $1,000 from Triumph and free side panniers. I won't quote price as it is a one time deal on a bike they need to move and isn't really reflective of what most people will pay for a fresh out of the crate bike. They have already done the clutch bleed and the bike should be good to go.

Any reason to pay a whole lot more for the white bike I prefer ever so slightly just to get the freshest stock available? I can't see any reason why a six month newer bike is better in any way but I figured I should check here to make sure. Now the battery might be tired but I'm not worried about that given the huge savings I'm facing. I just started the bike and found vibrations to NOT be an issue. I am pretty sure I'll buy the machine but always make myself "sleep on it" one extra night before pulling the trigger.

NC
 
#23 ·
1. I have not noticed any undue vibration in the bars or pegs.
2. I had to swap out the battery, otherwise the Fob has worked well (I am not a fan of any Fobs BTW).
3. The "Turn by Turn" nav is garbage. It is typically several hundred feet behind my actual position, so it is easy to miss turns. Just use your phone GPS.
4. Not a fan of knobbies, but I only have a couple of thousand miles on the bike, so I have not explored the options. The stock tires are great on dry tarmac, and even slightly wet roads when I've been caught in a rain shower.
5. Yes. Even at legal speeds, over 60 MPH or so, the mirrors do get blurry.
 
#26 · (Edited)
1. I have not noticed any undue vibration in the bars or pegs.
2. I had to swap out the battery, otherwise the Fob has worked well (I am not a fan of any Fobs BTW).
3. The "Turn by Turn" nav is garbage. It is typically several hundred feet behind my actual position, so it is easy to miss turns. Just use your phone GPS.
4. Not a fan of knobbies, but I only have a couple of thousand miles on the bike, so I have not explored the options. The stock tires are great on dry tarmac, and even slightly wet roads when I've been caught in a rain shower.
5. Yes. Even at legal speeds, over 60 MPH or so, the mirrors do get blurry.
I use my turn by turn Nav a lot. The reason I do is twofold. It is incredibly easy to see, and unlike what you are experiencing, it is very good at telling me when to turn.

The other reason I use it so much is that it is important to learn how to build routes for it. I build my routes on “inRoute” app and send them to the Triumph app as GPX files. It is pretty important to know how to build the file. If you don’t put a way point right after every road you are going to have to turn on, it may assume you know where to turn.

To clarify, the route on your app might show every road on the route, but that doesn’t always mean it will tell you to turn on every road. I’ve seen it give me a distance to the next waypoint that is two turns away, but not tell me to turn on the first turn. I‘m sure if I pass the turn it will tell me to go back. But every time it’s done it I knew where to turn without its help.

I have tried many times to purposely go a different way in the middle of the route. It does not like that. Unlike Garmin, it will not give you the option to recalculate. It will stubbornly tell you for many miles to go back to the turn you programmed. Sometimes it finally figures out you want to go a different route and recalculates a new map, sometimes it just stays mad at you.

No question it sets navigation back about 25 years, but it does work well if you build the route properly. I’m using it almost exclusively on routes I mostly know, and/or I also use my Garmin LM590 that I have mounted on the bike as a backup.
 
#31 ·
I just took delivery of my new bike yesterday. The first thing I did was siphon the old gas out of the tank and I struggled to get the cap closed. Is there a trick to this? I didn't want to force the issue and think I got it closed but I don't know what little dance I did to get it to latch properly. Does the thumb ignition switch need to be in a certain position or the bike primed but not running? I am sure it is something simple I did or didn't do but if anyone can clue me in that would be great.

NC
 
#33 ·
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Yes. You need to press really hard. Keep pressing until you hear a loud click. It is a bit of a PITA. Also, be sure the bike ignition is turned on to open the cap (with FOB in range). Maybe also to close it. I am not sure because the bike is always on when I get gas, so the bike is also on when I close the cap.

Pics please.
 
#35 ·
While we are clearly patting ourselves on the backs with our decision to buy Tiger 1200s, it certainly appears the review are universally extremely favorable. I was worried about the vibrations but a quick test at the dealer (no test ride mind you) had me convinced they would not be an issue. And my 2018 GS had way too many issues for a $25 bike including camshaft failures at 7,000 miles. And I have to say that much ballyhooed tele lever front suspension felt pretty harsh to me. But that bike is long gone and I am so thrilled to be a member of this club.

Something about this bike just felt right the first time I sat on it last September. The odd thing is that an "older" rider, mid 70's, ordered the bike in February of 2022. The bike arrived but he just didn't want the weight or power of the bike so he purchased a 900. He did put twenty test ride miles on the bike but I figure a guy in his 70s probably didn't hammer the bike too hard. Other than that the bike was as fresh out of the crate as any other and the dealer cut me a pretty good deal. So the bike is in my garage awaiting a decently warm day to take a first impressions ride. I have this weird thing about NOT riding a new bike for the first time on a gray, windy 55 degree day.

I had hoped to see the range say something like 350 miles and cannot see why it won't reader higher than that, but on the other hand it will be cool to have it read 300 miles and stay there for the next 50.

And I totally relate to stopping for gas when I want to, not have to. Having said that, I stop on rides all the time to check out local small towns and the like. Tiny towns like that and the people who live there are one of the fun things about traveling on a bike. Big cities? Meh. But small town 'Merica or any other country and the people are a lot more fun. What I don't like is coming down to that small town and the one gas station has four motorhomes in front of me. But with that 8 gallon tank I can just motor on by to the next one.

I have a miserable sinus surgery May 11 and will need at least two week to recover and likely 3. But once that is behind me, I'll rack up miles until the snow hits. I'll post a first impressions report and all that once I get the luggage on the bike and the sun comes out.

Gotta love seeing that bright sold tag with your name on it. Dealer delivered the bike just a couple days ago.

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NC
 
#36 ·
And one more post. The dealer mentioned "Sat-Nav" was via an App and my phone. I assume it is the turn-by-turn mentioned above as opposed to a map displayed on the TFT? I know I'll figure it out in short order but thought I would ask.

While Garmin catches a lot of grief for their units, I have found them to be very useful for broad stroke navigating or getting me out of some place. I may just add a new Zumo or Montana to the bars and call it good. I have an old 64CSX that I have used on bikes without built in GPS and it has gotten me out of a few jams where I come to a T in the road and don't know if I should turn left or right and the 64CSX has saved my booty. The display is too small for anything other than what I just mentioned but the new unit is quite a bit larger and won't eat AA batteries. A Montana 700 might be nice as well. I need to go check them out in the next week or two.

NC
 
#38 ·
Trust me, the "Turn by Turn" navigation is the worst feature of this bike. It always lags ay least 40 to 100 yards behind my actual position and calls a lot of streets "Unmarked" or "Unknown". I tried it again yesterday. Still sucks.

I would consider a GPS Unit, but I just put my phone in the RAM Mount and done deal. In fact, the bike has a front power port. I bought a voltmeter which plugs into the port, and adds 2 USB ports. So, if you are on a long ride, you can keep your phone charged with a 2 foot cord. I also have a Cardo Freecom 4X, so I pair that to the bike and my phone, with the cardo also paired as a "Headset" to the bike. I DO NOT typically listen to music or use the headset for much else than GPS when riding. But I can take (or make) an occasional important phone call all with the Tiger 1200 screen, and see who is the caller on my phone display. It works very well. No need for that "Turn by Turn" lunacy. Of course, that is just my opinion. Others seem to like the "Turn by Turn".
 
#37 ·
Its an awesome bike. I definitely would not worry about the 20 test miles. In fact, probably better because any catastrophic issue with a new bike might have already shown itself. I bought mine with 900 miles. My dealer had 2 used bikes and his new bike had over 20 test miles, but those were mostly from me. I told him I would take care of the bike on the test ride by only putting miles on the rear tire.

The dealer told me the Tiger 1200's he takes back in favor of the 900's tend to be from people who just find the T1200 too tall. One was dropped on the owners driveway. So, aside from some future problems yet unknown, I think this is a great bike in almost every way if you are on the tall side.
 
#40 ·
Funny you mentioned the weight thing. The guy who backed out of the purchase on the bike I bought did not like the height/weight but he was also in his mid 70’s and that likely played a role as well.

I am only 5’9” tall but grew up riding tall dirt bikes. As such, a taller bike feels normal to me and the weight on the explorer was actually a selling point. Last summer a guy who bought a new Explorer let me sit on his bike with the tank full of fuel. The bike felt fairly light to me. Now that is light by 1200cc ADV standards. I am actually flat flooted on the GT Pro but the the Explorer’s heated seat is about an inch taller. The heated low seat is only $200 and gets me back to flat footed.

While I get that this is a big heavy ADV bike, it isn’t any heavier than a GS or Multistrada. But for even light duty off-reading, I would ride a 900 Rally Pro for sure.

Looking forward to my first ride.

NC
 
#54 · (Edited)
Funny you mentioned the weight thing. The guy who backed out of the purchase on the bike I bought did not like the height/weight but he was also in his mid 70’s and that likely played a role as well. I am only 5’9” tall but grew up riding tall dirt bikes. As such, a taller bike feels normal to me and the weight on the explorer was actually a selling point. Last summer a guy who bought a new Explorer let me sit on his bike with the tank full of fuel. The bike felt fairly light to me. Now that is light by 1200cc ADV standards. I am actually flat flooted on the GT Pro but the the Explorer’s heated seat is about an inch taller. The heated low seat is only $200 and gets me back to flat footed. While I get that this is a big heavy ADV bike, it isn’t any heavier than a GS or Multistrada. But for even light duty off-reading, I would ride a 900 Rally Pro for sure. Looking forward to my first ride. NC
I thought it would be helpful to prospective buyers for current owners to solidify the biggest gripes/issues/problems they have since receiving their new Tiger 1200s. Maybe share some fixes, too? Some of the biggest complaints of reviewers that I can think of: 1. peg/handlebar vibrations at certain constant RPMs (maybe someone can chime in as to what RPMs/engine load & if there is a fix?) 2. key fob not working 3. onboard GPS foibles 4. odd tire sizes 5. blurry mirrors at speed
I had issues right out of the gate on my 2023 tiger 1200 gt explorer. Coolant leak from a faulty line, gas cap won’t close even with 2 ppl leaning on it (had to put it on the center stand and put my knee on it to close it) which I’ll be getting a warranty replacement for that because shop tech couldn’t close it either and I’ve had to leave it open more than once. Vibrations are not bad definitely noticed the mirrors but doesn’t bother me too much. GPS is definitely trash I disconnected my phone and Cardo immediately. Levers do not adjust close enough to the bars with my small hands and after talking to triumph they expressed that they had no intention of making women friendly levers I ended up buying PUIG levers that are the v3.0 foldable and extendable tho they are also not perfect because now only the brake side will adjust closer for me and I’m stuck with the clutch being a literal hand cramping stretch or letting go to grab the lever. Overall I do like the bike but there are definitely things I hate about it. One nice thing to add in the future would be reverse because it’s a literal pain to maneuver around on a hill. Annnd most recently already a dead battery in the first year. 😞
 
#55 ·
Bad news. Today was only my 2nd ride on the bike and the clutch slipped horribly all day.

Truth be told, it did this the first time I rode the bike in early May but since everything was new I just wrote it off as not sure what was going on. Well on my 2nd ride today (I had surgery May 11 and had to take a six week hiatus) I went to pass a car and gunned the bike pretty good in 4th gear. The revs surged but the bikes acceleration lagged behind. I tried this numerous times in each gear and the bike exhibited the same behavior.

I cut my ride short, pissed-offedly so, and called the dealer. They cannot get me in until July 5 and I get that given it is summer. But I rode to the dealer and spoke with my sales rep about it. He was quite curious and took my bike out for a ride himself. He CLEARLY felt what I felt and agreed it seemed like the clutch was slipping. He also commented it felt like the clutch got worse in the ten minutes he rode the bike.

So now I have a 25,000 bike I cannot ride that will likely NOT get fixed until the end of July given it will need Triumphs approval as well as entire clutch assembly which may need to come from Europe. I told myself NOT to buy a bike that had been sitting for nine months (not like something would go bad from sitting but because the bike arrived in July of last year so it was a real early production model) that was passed over by another rider after a twenty mile test ride but I did it anyway. I told myself, I told myself . . .

NC
 
#60 ·
Bad news. Today was only my 2nd ride on the bike and the clutch slipped horribly all day.

Truth be told, it did this the first time I rode the bike in early May but since everything was new I just wrote it off as not sure what was going on. Well on my 2nd ride today (I had surgery May 11 and had to take a six week hiatus) I went to pass a car and gunned the bike pretty good in 4th gear. The revs surged but the bikes acceleration lagged behind. I tried this numerous times in each gear and the bike exhibited the same behavior.

I cut my ride short, pissed-offedly so, and called the dealer. They cannot get me in until July 5 and I get that given it is summer. But I rode to the dealer and spoke with my sales rep about it. He was quite curious and took my bike out for a ride himself. He CLEARLY felt what I felt and agreed it seemed like the clutch was slipping. He also commented it felt like the clutch got worse in the ten minutes he rode the bike.

So now I have a 25,000 bike I cannot ride that will likely NOT get fixed until the end of July given it will need Triumphs approval as well as entire clutch assembly which may need to come from Europe. I told myself NOT to buy a bike that had been sitting for nine months (not like something would go bad from sitting but because the bike arrived in July of last year so it was a real early production model) that was passed over by another rider after a twenty mile test ride but I did it anyway. I told myself, I told myself . . .

NC
Any updates?

NEVER MIND, found it in the other thread. Good to hear.
 
#58 ·
Owned for 10 months so far, issues I have had are as follows

1. TFT display had issues and had to be replaced. Then average MPG and other didn’t register any info. Software update x 3 resolved this
2. Brake light needed change due to 50% LEDs not working

These were the initial problems. During a recent tour to Austria, about 3000 miles in total the following happened, not sorted yet as only just back

3. Headlight loose / vibrates
4. Very difficult to get Hill hold to release automatically
5. Randomly stalled when pulling clutch in traffic
6. Check engine light randomly coming on during hot weather
7. Menu buttons, inc setting and ride modes stopped working during. Next day they were OK, this happened twice and only pattern was rain on the day it did happen
8. Clunky gear change with or without using quick shifter. Changing from 3rd to 2nd with clutch required a good stomp on the gear lever. I thought this might be down to hot weather but happened when I got back to UK and colder climates