I'm disappointed today. Thought I might buy a new Triumph 400 street. The dealership has to pass on freight and set up charges from Triumph corporate that add almost 25% to the list price.
Freight and set up charges!
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I hear people in Cali have/make a lot of money, so sounds about right.
Try that in Bumfuk Idaho and me thinks they wont sell any
Hi-Tech Motorsports, Billings MT
You can't keep any of your money in California, the government takes it all of from you. Of course, they know better than you the best use of your money. One of the reasons I left about 7 years ago. Even after I left those crooks in the state government kept trying to get into my wallet. Shameful.
The odd one out was a 1985 Honda CB650 that I bought on E-bay. A mechanic I knew had owned one and loved it, was the in-line 4, six speed, shaft drive and was something I thought would be a smooth bike that I could use for commuting as well as an occasional trip. The bike was about 200 miles away, I spoke to the seller before buying it, and the photos looked great. I rent a trailer to go pick it up, drive over and when I get there...it's a piece of shi* !!!!! I was there, I had the cash, I made him discount it and brought it home. Decided to change the oil as the first order of business, drain plug was stripped, oil was really black, tires were weathered, the whole thing put a bad taste in my mouth that I couldn't get out. Took a loss but sold it, I assumed the seller bought the bike, took photos, owned it for six years, had it sit outside in his back yard, never rode it, and I bought it...never again!
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Thanks for the clarification -- yeah, vintage bikes are always a crap shoot, at best. This was the Nighthawk model? A shame it didn't work, that would've been a cool classic to have in the garage.
Did someone say Nighthawk.
newjersey.craigslist.org
1985 Honda Nighthawk 650 Motorcycle - motorcycles/scooters - by owner - vehicle automotive bike sale - craigslist
1985 Honda Nighthawk CB650 Motorcycle in good working condition. 8800 miles. Garage kept last 4 years.
Yes, that was the one, a CB650SC so it was more of a classic standard bike. I thought it was something I could put a windshield on, and enjoy the smooth silky power from an inline 4. Although I took a bath on that one, I was happy to see it out of my garage and I never looked back. It had the potential, the guy definitely was misrepresenting it and I let him know. Therefore, going forward if I was making a commitment before purchasing, I would make the salesman go outside, take FRESH photos and send them to me.
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My first bike — separate from those I had while growing up — was a Honda Magna V30, the 500cc model, ‘84 or ‘85, I can’t recall any longer. Great bike and I still smile at pictures of it, so I can understand the appeal that Nighthawk must’ve held for you.
As far as the “other” 500cc Honda of that era, the Ascot, the less said the better.
Yeah...that V-4 was a GREAT motor, Honda at one time was the bomb when it came to street bikes, including the CBR600F2 they had. Accountants took over, now they are boring and not the best, but the build quality is certainly there, but they have lost their way compared to how KTM has been developing bikes. I think Triumph has a great owner and a good business model, the engineering seems pretty good, especially the latest motocross bikes Triumph came out with, pretty good bike for the introduction. I found the photo of the CB650SC, mine was all faded out, seat had holes in it, etc. so it was totally misrepresented, I wanted to punch the guy for me having driven all the way over, only to find the condition was so different than what he had posted on-line. It was a great looking bike, that inline 4 looked sharp and the 6 speed gave it good highway performance along with no-maintenance shaft drive. Wouldn't buy one again, but back then in the 90's when I bought it, thought it was a great value bike!
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Just bought a Speed 400 from Triumph of Foxboro MA yesterday. It's replacing my 2012 Bonnie SE.
$4995 list
$530 freight
$399 dealer prep
$110 registration
$299 document or administration fees
$330.88 MA Sales tax
$6663.88 out the door
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I did the same. I'm selling my 2012 Bonnie SE and bought the Speed 400 yesterday after taking it for a demo ride. It is plenty of motorcycle for me at this stage of my life.Bought my Speed 400 two weeks ago.
I knew it would be around $7K out the door, but I guess some dealers charge differently.
Freight - $530
Dealer Prep - $350
TN 10% sales tax, license and doc fees...
$6796.15 out the door.
I will say this though, for a life long rider, who will be 68 in a couple weeks, I would have paid more.
So far it seems to be perfect bike for this chapter of my life.
I've been doing some looking at other smaller cc bikes like the Versys 300 adventure bike. Its' a $6K bike and a few in the area are offering them at $4k
Of the two dealers contacted, nether of them allow any sort of a test ride period. Both dealers took them to $6 plus out the door. Not only the usual fees but a handling fee as well. KTM's same story.
I'm glad to see some Triumphs lower than $7k out the door. I still think it should be a lower number though, closer to $6,500 OTD. To attribute all the same costs to set up a small bike is questionable to me BUT: triumph dealers in DFW are great on demo days and test rides and that is worth quite a bit to me buying a new bike. Getting some luggage thrown in would make it even better.
Of the two dealers contacted, nether of them allow any sort of a test ride period. Both dealers took them to $6 plus out the door. Not only the usual fees but a handling fee as well. KTM's same story.
I'm glad to see some Triumphs lower than $7k out the door. I still think it should be a lower number though, closer to $6,500 OTD. To attribute all the same costs to set up a small bike is questionable to me BUT: triumph dealers in DFW are great on demo days and test rides and that is worth quite a bit to me buying a new bike. Getting some luggage thrown in would make it even better.
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Thats a very good point. Quite frankly I wish they would do that.
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Might be too late, BUT… there’s a VERY lightly used Speed 400 on Cycle Trader for $4500, even if you shipped it, maybe $5000 total.
Not sure how that would work. Triumph like any other brand including cars and trucks sets a MSRP that is a recommended price. Dealers can charge what they want. They don't set the fees that dealers charge. This might be a poor example, but BMW, which sells expensive bikes these days, has a fixed fee schedule for all their models. Used to be aroung $500. They show the base price and then all the add ons since they rarely sell a base price bike and that's it. Of course, other fees are already part of the expensive price to begin with, but their marketing seems to work.
It's stiil available but shipping quote is $861.
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