I'm disappointed today. Thought I might buy a new Triumph 400 street. The dealership has to pass on freight and set up charges from Triumph corporate that add almost 25% to the list price.
Freight and set up charges!
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same as my experience, & I was told it was a 3rd party company
I am not sure how corporate makes all those decisions on what the dealer is selling the motorcycle for. I used to sell airplanes, Cessna was very strict on the MSRP, so we would throw in thousands of $$$ in accessories for the buyer as an enticement. That being said, our local BMW dealer is a very aggressive on the asking price as far as a discount, BMW calls him all the time and asks - why are you selling so many bikes, you are leading the North American market! Triumph dealers can make the choice - here is the bike out the door, and if another make provides more bang for the buck, it's called competition. I do like the looks of Speed 400, but I need to feel good walking out the door or else...I will buy something else.
Correct, an extended warranty can be negotiated into the price. I haven't had that good of luck with extended warranty, as they submit the claim and it takes a week or two to decide if they will pay the claim or not. I purchased a 3 year extended warranty once, the bike had a one year factory warranty. 9 months later I traded the bike off, thinking that they would pro-rate the 27 months of warranty, and calculated that out. Nope, got about half the warranty cost or less when I cashed out, will never do it again.
This is a short story-I paid straight MSRP OTD. Montana is also a no sales tax state. For license, it's a one-time permanent plate, no annual renewal. Haven't got the plate yet but expect it to be less than $200.
@Miks you nailed it with your last sentence!
That is why I won't to buy a new bike. I refuse to pay the freight and set-up fees. I would like to buy the 400 speed also, but I'll patiently wait until next year and pick up a slightly used one.
Let me give some senior advice...maybe we are all the same age, so that may not be true. However, life is to be enjoyed and living in a 'someday' world often leads to disappointment. I have owned 48 motorcycles, and enjoyed 47 of them and rode the snot out of each one. I say - if something in you says 'I really want one of those', don't wait until the someday, as do it while you can, your priorities will change, and sometimes opportunities will pass you by. One story I will tell here. Many years ago whilst going through financial hard times, I lost my hot supermodel girlfriend, lost my house, lost my bike, lost my job...it was not fun. I was barely making it with an entry level job, when I spotted a motorcycle at a consignment shop. I just had to have it. I walked in and put it on my credit card...back then $4,000 was a lot of money. I wasn't sure how I was going to pay it off, but that bike saved my life. I would go out and ride it every Saturday by filling the tank which was all the money I had, and ride it until I was about out of gas. I would spend time going down unknown roads and thinking about how did I get in this mess! Anyway, I ended up paying off that bike within 6 months and don't know how I did it. Fond memories, it was the only thing I had at the time that made me happy, and it all worked out.
Sorry for your troubles man but you played your cards right IMHO.
It may be at a certain age or maybe it's more a financial thing for some people but for me, I'm done waiting for what I want just to save a couple of hundred bucks.
Nobody knows which way the hammer will swing tomorrow.
@Miks and @LIRider you are right. In this case though I don't have the desire to own a new Triumph 400 that I had when I bought a new Bonneville in 2001. Also, I've learned that the "new wears off" and I can get buyer's remorse once whatever I've bought starts to be less interesting.
I just bought a new guitar though!
I just bought a new guitar though!
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I bet if Triumph raised the MSRP $500 and cooled it with the garbage fees there would be less complaining and likey more units sold. A MSRP of $4,995 for a new Speed 400 is crazy cheap!
What kind of ax did you buy?
LIRider, yeah it was surely a bummer of a time, partially a bad decision on my part, but the spiral downward was awful and something I hope no one has to experience. There is something to life that has us think we are going to live forever, and we have all this time to get 'those desires of the heart' and it seems more often than not, that day never arrives. I used to fly with a guy who was big in on the MotoGuzzi, he rode tens of thousands of miles and would go coast to coast. I asked him why he quite riding, and it was because his balance wasn't what it had been, so he never rode a motorcycle again. All I can say is that when I get up in the morning sometimes, I don't feel like that twenty year old anymore, and I have this pact with myself to never be that old guy sitting on the porch talking about how I should have done this or that! The moral to the story is this - there has NEVER been a motur-psykle parked outside of a psychologist office 
A used but very nice Martin D-28. In this case used is better than new because the guitar has had 20 years to "open up". I probably don't have another 20 years waiting for a new one to "mature"!
@406Rider What dealership did you get the bike from? Might be worth a trip.
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Saw a 400X in Socal. Dealer wants $999 for freight and $799 for set up. That set up fee is just added dealer mark up. I get the shipping fees, but it's around $150 an hour for mechanics that already work for them to set the bike up. Anything over $300 to set up a bike is just ADM. They also use the Doc fees to boost the prices.
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Okay, curiousity requires me to ask: Which was the odd man out, and why?
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