The Dunlop Trailmax Mission seems to be very popular on this site. Research them and I believe you'll find they hold up well even under hard conditions. Looking to put some on mine as soon as I finish break-in.

 

I've had a great experience with the Dunlop Trailmax Missions. I've abused the crap out of them for over 12 months....mostly off road. This pic was taken in Oct 21 with approx 5K miles on the rear. Now it's about 4 months later and they haven't worn out yet. They are great on road and off road. A bit noisier than the stockers and a bit heavy which causes slightly slower steering on road (which I don't care about at all...I'm not Ricky Racer on road)

That said, I'm looking for more knobby bite and will go with a more off road tire like Motoz RallZ next time.

 

I've had a great experience with the Dunlop Trailmax Missions. I've abused the crap out of them for over 12 months....mostly off road. This pic was taken in Oct 21 with approx 5K miles on the rear. Now it's about 4 months later and they haven't worn out yet. They are great on road and off road. A bit noisier than the stockers and a bit heavy which causes slightly slower steering on road (which I don't care about at all...I'm not Ricky Racer on road)

That said, I'm looking for more knobby bite and will go with a more off road tire like Motoz RallZ next time.

I've had a great experience with the Dunlop Trailmax Missions. I've abused the crap out of them for over 12 months....mostly off road. This pic was taken in Oct 21 with approx 5K miles on the rear. Now it's about 4 months later and they haven't worn out yet. They are great on road and off road. A bit noisier than the stockers and a bit heavy which causes slightly slower steering on road (which I don't care about at all...I'm not Ricky Racer on road)

That said, I'm looking for more knobby bite and will go with a more off road tire like Motoz RallZ next time.

 

I've also been planning on installing the Trailmax Missions on my RP. Overall, reviews on them are very good from lots of riders.

 

thanks for the info. dunlop trailmax it is.

 

If Michelin makes an Anakee in your bike's size those are pretty good.
Noisy for the first 5000 miles, though.

 

I ran the Trailmax also, and thought they were a good tire. Problem I had, was I seemed to pick up every screw or nail on the road with them. On one of the patches, the tire was splitting away from where I had patched it (gummie). Wasn't too fond of that. I switched to the Mitas E-07 Dakar's (not the plus), which I ran on my last bike. I really like them, tough, and good traction for what I do. Long lasting also.

 

I ran the Trailmax also, and thought they were a good tire. Problem I had, was I seemed to pick up every screw or nail on the road with them. On one of the patches, the tire was splitting away from where I had patched it (gummie). Wasn't too fond of that. I switched to the Mitas E-07 Dakar's (not the plus), which I ran on my last bike. I really like them, tough, and good traction for what I do. Long lasting also. I agree totally l use mitas eo7 plus on rear and tkc 80 on front on my rally pro superb on and off road

 

I will take a look at the Mitas you recommend; thanks for that info.

 

kC60 SCOUT , Also good on the road though the front tyre is odd at slow speeds on tarmac

 

I am very happy with my Tiger 900 RP since I bought it in Jan '21. It was a fully equipped one (panniers, Arrow, bars etc. ) with Trailmax Missions. Firstly I doubted to swap them for less offroad tires, but after 7500km I am very happy and confident with them. Riding year around mainly for business, they mainly see road. But they are very, very stable, rather quiet, super grippy and good-looking. They are very heavy, but that feels like they will never wear or fail. Next tires will be some 7000-8000kms away, I estimate. The only downside is the price...

 

I had the Tourances removed from my GT Pro and replaced them with TKC-80s front and rear. When the rear wears out I plan to try the TKC-70 Rocks. My tire choices are overkill for my bike as I don't try to be particularly fast on pavement and my off pavement -- which is a lot -- is pretty mild. As I gain experience with the bike and build some better off pavement skills, I'll be looking at tires that provide more longevity but for now, I am happy with what I have. I had a front tire wash out on me a few years ago riding on wet slick dirt turning up a hill on my R1200GS and I hit the ground so fast I hardly knew what happened. No permanent damage to me though the twisted knee bothered me for some weeks and made me leery of off pavement riding without at least having better off pavement tires (though in truth I don't think a front TKC-80 would have saved my butt -- better skills would have though).

 

I have had a TKC70 front and TKC70 Rocks for about 500 miles/two weeks and they are fine on pavement. I have not taken them off the pavement yet but I saw this a while back and when it came to change from 90/10 to 50/50, I thought I would give them a try.

 

I’m not sure if they come in your size but I’m currently using a set of Motoz Tractionator GPS on a middle weight ADV bike. Happy with them so far. They say in one direction (applies to the rear only) they are 50/50 and turned around they are like 80/20 (ish). They should be a very high mileage tire.

 

is the tkc 80 a good sand tire? how does that combination of tires work on the road too. thanks

 

I find the tkc80 on front good as it is quite an aggressive knobby for a 50/50 tyre lve been on single tracks with either gravel to sandy soil not that deep and works a treat but l commute every day to work on my bike and most week ends l might do a 2-300 klm loop and nearly all on tarmac and the front knobby and rear mitas eo7 plus work superb l chose this tyres after much research and that’s me coming from my last 2 sets of metzeler karoo street on a gsa / Ktm but once lve worn out front l might match the rear with a mitas eo7 not for any reason just to try as lm happy with both hope this helps 👍

 

TKC-80 on the front is nice and maybe a longer lasting tire on the back might make for a good combination. That's why I have the TKC-70 Rocks in mind for when the rear tire wears down and needs replacement.

The TKC-80 tire has been out for years (20-30 years?) and is well regarded for street, wet pavement, and of course off road. Really don't need to air them down for off road either. The only big downside is that they don't last long but performance and handling in near all conditions is good to very good. When you look at them they really look like aggressive knobbies but you might be surprised that you can scrape pegs with them on pavement if you really want to.

 

TKC-80 on the front is nice and maybe a longer lasting tire on the back might make for a good combination. That's why I have the TKC-70 Rocks in mind for when the rear tire wears down and needs replacement.

The TKC-80 tire has been out for years (20-30 years?) and is well regarded for street, wet pavement, and of course off road. Really don't need to air them down for off road either. The only big downside is that they don't last long but performance and handling in near all conditions is good to very good. When you look at them they really look like aggressive knobbies but you might be surprised that you can scrape pegs with them on pavement if you really want to.

Very true lm finding the front tkc wearing ok and yes l to stape my boots when cornering and feels very stable and as you said about cost and wear on the rear is why so far lm stoked with the mitas eo 7 and chose them over the tkc70 rocks only because it has a more aggressive tread block lve ran tkc 70 s on my Ktm 1190 and was super impressed with mileage but we’re ok with moderate off road tracks but on road we’re great 👍

 

The Conti TKC-80 is a bias ply tire and the Mitas E-07 is a radial tire. There is a theory that bias ply and radial tires should not be mixed on a bike but I think that is more internet rumor with no substance behind it than anything else -- but I thought it was worth mentioning. The Mitas E-07 does look good!

 

There is a theory that bias ply and radial tires should not be mixed on a bike but I think that is more internet rumor with no substance behind it than anything else -- but I thought it was worth mentioning.

You can mix a cross-ply front with a radial or bias-ply rear. Quite a few adventure tyre sets do this, such as the Michelin Anakee Wild.

I'm told radial front with cross-ply rear is a big no-no though.

 

My local mechanic who rides a 1250GS swears by the Avon TREK Riders. He's on his 3rd set and he claims they are amazing on road and off-road. He called them the Unicorn of tires. Does anyone else have any experience with the Trek Riders? Thanks.

 

The jury is in.... Dunlop Trialmax suck hard in the mud. Hit mud and snow today.... the tires would just fill up with mud.....oddly, snow cleaned the tire out.

Granted...my rear tire is pretty worn....but the front was absolutely worthless and terrifying in the mud.

 

The jury is in.... Dunlop Trialmax suck hard in the mud. Hit mud and snow today.... the tires would just fill up with mud.....oddly, snow cleaned the tire out.

Granted...my rear tire is pretty worn....but the front was absolutely worthless and terrifying in the mud.

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Same experience here. I think they're great, except for mud and slick situations. In the northeast, we've got lots of that. Motoz for the win.

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Baby's got a new pair of shoes. These are going to take some getting used to. Turning on pavement feels weird. They also get a little "floaty" on the freeway at speed.

I'm hoping the weirdness will go away after the tires are scrubbed.

 

Baby's got a new pair of shoes. These are going to take some getting used to. Turning on pavement feels weird. They also get a little "floaty" on the freeway at speed.

I'm hoping the weirdness will go away after the tires are scrubbed.

Rallz front too?

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Definitely more aggressive than the Trailmax

 

A nice cold and rainy day to scrub them in.....

These babies grip.... wow.

 

All you guys finding the Trailmax missions weren't up to the tasks you'd hoped they were, I hate to say I told you so, but... I told you so. 50/50 tire my foot; marketing only. @flyingburritobrother I knew you'd end up with a knobby given the riding you're doing down there. Keep us posted on the Motoz. Lots of bad reports on those regarding oscillation.

As for the original question on this thread, I can't recommend TKC80s enough. I highly recommend keeping them both front and rear, too. If you ride with any frequency, doing so means a new rear every year, but in my experience absolutely NOTHING compares to their all-around performance. And due to the high silica content they corner like no knobby should. LOVE them.

Beware the TKC70, though. Easily the worst tire I ever owned.

Zolo

 

Actually, I was quite happy with the Trailmax Mission overall. It had good grip off road. It just sucked in sand/mud (which I tend to avoid). It had great on road response as well. It's a fantastic tire. I did wear out the rear out in 1 year. Front still had some life.

I went with the Rallz because I wanted more bite...that's all. They came highly recommended by someone who's input I trust. However, he doesn't have a 21" front wheel on his bike....so we'll see how that translates on mine. They're new right now and definetely feel "weird" compared to the Trailmax....they need breaking in. The only place that gave me pause was on our grooved freeways. They felt very floaty....but keep in mind, this was riding from the tire shop to home....brand spanking new.

 

I went with the Rallz because I wanted more bite...that's all. They came highly recommended by someone who's input I trust. However, he doesn't have a 21" front wheel on his bike....so we'll see how that translates on mine. They're new right now and definetely feel "weird" compared to the Trailmax....they need breaking in. The only place that gave me pause was on our grooved freeways. They felt very floaty....but keep in mind, this was riding from the tire shop to home....brand spanking new.

I know lots of people are mounting TCK80 front with the various Motoz rears to help with that floatation. But then that gets in to the mix of bias and radial...

Seriously, please keep us posted. Would love to know if that settles down or not.

Thanks,

Zolo

 

Motoz have completely re-vamped their website, and now list the Tractionator DualVenture. Seems to have the same compound as the Adventure, which means the RallZ probably still has better wet grip.

TRACTIONATOR DUALVENTURE - Motoz

TKC80 have fundamentally sucked dogs balls on every bike I've had them on. IF they work, they are super-fussy about pressure. Definitely can't recommend. Usually there are a couple of better choices, but many people seems to 'run home to mama', just jump from a 90/10 type tyre to the TKC80 and not try the others in the class. YMMV.

Here's the most recent adventure tyre review from Kyle Bradshaw:

 

Any updates on the Motoz Rallz? That means you Burrito boy…

Just put on a TCK70 Rocks rear, replaced a TKC70, and waiting for a TKC80 TL front to arrive. Still have my (almost worn) TKC70 front on. Like the better dig of the Rocks, while still pretty smooth on road. Continental recommends the TKC80 to pair with the Rocks rear for a more aggressive off road package that is still streetable.

Really thinking hard about the Rallz for next set of sneakers. Things can get spretty snotty in the Smoky Mountains, hence my going TKC80 front. But I’m in need of something that will handle sum pavement as well. (Imagine riding Tail of the Dragon on full knobs, Yikes!) Since I live like a half hour from The Tail, all my friends who visit want to hit that up.

Cheers,
RD

 

Wow this thread fell of the radar...almost a year.

So my experience with the Motoz Rallz.

Lets talk off-road first.... These tires absolutely excel in dirt....grip is a big step above 50/50 type tires. If you're riding in sand the Ralls make a huge difference from 50/50s. Just remember it's sand within reason too, we're on bigger ADV bikes, not 250 pound enduro/mx bikes. No tire is going to save you in death sand. Mud...I can't report on because I avoid mud...that's just a day spent picking up your bike. There isn't much else to say ....they're a great tire when the pavement ends.

As for on road, they took some adjustment for me. ...and when I first put them on they were terrifying...probably because I was riding home from the shop on grooved San Diego freeways.
The knobbies made the bike feel like I was riding on a greased non-stick frying pan...and that was in a straight line. After break-in/scrubbing, they were fine on road....but a step down from Dunlop Trailmaxxes I had before . I'm not a pavement ripper anyway, so it didn't affect me that much. I just never got comfortable pushing them... but I don't push speed in twisties even with 90/10 or 50/50 tires. I've got a friend who uses these same tires on his 1250 GS (fatter/smaller dia front wheel) and he rips the pavement with them. Loves them to death. So, it's probably a matter of skill/comfort in my case. Maybe the skinny 21" front wheel contributes too, I just don't know. You could ride Tail of the Dragon with these....but depending on your skill/comfort, you're not going to want to be trying to set time records. Plus...those twisties would just eat up the knobs. One more comment: The Ralls are noisy....especially when worn down. All that said, don't take my comments here as a negative review for on-road use. They work...but you are trading off for the off-road grip.

In the end, I spend most of my time off road, so these are the tires for me. I wore out the rear with about 3K on it....tread life sucks. I just replaced the rear with the MOTOZ Adventure rear which is still a knobby, but will probably last 1/3 longer. Figured i'd give it a try. Haven't had the chance to ride it off road yet, I'm laid up for a while (for off-road at least).

Hope this helps....