On my arrow exhaust (dual slip ons), after removing the weld, I used needle nose pliers to remove the ring.

I put mine back in after installing the map. Wasn't sure how specific the maps were. And I'd read something about engine back pressure and such.

And I just lost it. So be careful!


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Ok guys I figured it out and made a custom "hook" that I could slide into the DB killer and peck it out. There are a couple holes in it that you can snag and get leverage. There is no way in hell pliers were gonna do it.

 

Nice. Please let us know how does it sound without the db killer.


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here's what i did for my arrow slip on...to remove the stuck baffles.

this would be much easier with a picture....

1. bought a hook with a threaded end and nut. it was was 4 1/2" long.

2. cut the hook with a hacksaw down to a 7/8" width so it would fit into the baffle but still had part of the hook remaining.

3. use a thin piece of wood, with a drilled hole to accept the bolt.

4. insert the hook into any one of the holes in the baffle, bolt goes through the wood, which rests along the bottom (flat side) of the arrow exhaust. attach washer and nut on bolt from the outside.

5. slowly tighten the nut, which will pull the baffle out.

threads deliver a slow but progressive push/pull. both of baffles were really stuck and i did not want to resort to a hammer and chisel. i got this idea by working on bicycles and use a crank removal press pretty often.

once out, i used a dremel tool with a high grit sander and emery cloth to smooth and slightly enlarge the diameter of the arrow and to smooth the baffle.

 

To the OP, good job I was wondering if this could be done and if the end cap would have to come out, now we know how easy it can be done. I'm curious if it improves or hurts the low end torque with it out, obviously it will sound better.

 

here's a picture. my baffles were really stuck, but it was pretty easy to pull them out.

 

So have you had a chance to ride and give your opinion on the DBkiller removed over stock exhaust. Mine is coming in next week don't no if I will remove or keep in. Thanks any advance would be appreciated.

 

I tried this but still couldn't get the baffle out. My hook was too short so I used a metal pipe with a bolt sticking out the end. I could get the baffle out a few mm and then struggled to put it back in, when I gave up.
Can anyone, who has done this, comment on how hard it is to replace the baffle? I doubt my neighbours want my bike too loud, so I'm not sure this is worth the effort as I'll likely end up with the baffle in. On my last bike it was a 2 minute job to do so I could change my mind frequently.


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It is definitely louder, but not obnoxious like some sport bikes you hear. To me it is the perfect amount of loudness. It still sounds refined but you can actually hear it now. I can still hear the intake easily when riding. Most bikes the exhaust is so loud you can't hear anything (ducati etc).

 

Found this thread when I was searching for how to get my baffles back out. I've had my bike from new (2 years ago) and installed the Arrow slip ons once it was run in. I had the baffles out no problem when they were new, decided they were too loud and popped them back in.

9k miles later, given that nothing needed fixing I thought I'd fettle and remove the baffles but they were well stuck, hence I found this thread, but hooks/pliers/mole grips wouldn't shift them. I tried again straight after a 25 mile commute home they came out with pliers no probs. I'd previously tried warming the bike up on the drive, didn't help, it needed a good run to warm the pipes up ('til the circlips were too hot to touch).

Not sure why it worked, I'd expect the baffles to be hotter than the cans so have expanded more and be tighter in the cans. Maybe different metals, or some effect of heating cylinders, dunno, but thought this info might help someone!

Pete

 

I had thought of that. I do see a problem, however. If you need to heat the exhaust to get the baffle out, how do you get it back in? You can run the bike to heat the exhaust but not the baffle, once it is out.


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Clean it up and file it down. If it's tight still, stick it in the freezer (as someone else suggested here).

 

I got my 2013 bike (including the Arrow slip on).. Even with the db killer in i love its throaty snarl! Still i can't help but wonder what difference no db killer will make... its going to be LOUD! lol

One of my favourite features of the arrow so far... sudden throttle off causes lovely pops Again that's got to be amplified without the db killer! Love it.

 

It's lovely and deep at idle, gets a bit loud and blarey as you rev it, then goes quiet over 6K. Yes, a few lovely pops on the overrun, but a civilised amount.

The bike I originally test rode had Arrows on (baffles in) so i knew I had to have some. (It took a good 3 years to buy one, mind).

 

Has anyone taken out the baffle on the 2013 arrow slip on and successfully re-inserted it? If so did you hit any issues?

I just want to know its possible to replace the baffle before i attempt to 'set it free'

Oh and the more i see the arrow's design the more i actually really love it! It really suits the bike.

 

Has anyone taken out the baffle on the 2013 arrow slip on and successfully re-inserted it? If so did you hit any issues?

I just want to know its possible to replace the baffle before i attempt to 'set it free'

No, I gave up trying. I come and go to work at anti-social hours and live in a quiet neighbourhood so don't anticipate actually riding with the baffle out. It was too much effort to remove to do it just for the sake of experimentation.

 

I know this is an old thread but I found it searching for info on this, while struggling to remove these baffles today. Pliers don't work because you cannot grip only the baffle without also gripping the permanent sleeve. Read on here about the hook method and turns out Snap-On do a tool specifically for this job......... Ok not really, but it is perfect for it. Out in seconds. And easy to refit.

 

What do they call that hook? I couldn't find one on the Snap-on site. From what I tried earlier I think I'm actually going to need a slide hammer to get the baffles out.

 

i got arrow installed, rode 1 day with baffle...nah
next day removed very easily with 2 split ring pliers, just pulled out...
sound is great, specially when decelerating 3rd, 4th gear...

 

db killer

I had a hell of a time getting the db inserts out the first time and once I did I have a 6x48 inch stationary belt sander gently rotated them up against the belt and problem solved

 

Long nose pliers may it easy. Don't drop the screw !!
I have had it in and out several times, (oo ahh vicar!)
Personally feel that out is tiring on a long journey.
Also drowns over the gorgeous sound of the intake roar.
So it is back in now.

 

My baffle was a BEAST to remove. Enough swearing and beating on it finally got it removed. And yes, I did drop the screw in the muffler... (but got it out).
I found that letting some penetrating oil soak around the edges help loosen things up.
Ended up using a hook on a handle and beating on the handle with a hammer.