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Currently ride a 2021 Street RS with only 3.9K miles. I'm primarily a "weekend" rider and just super short commutes to work so really do it for the enjoyment so a bit less comfort doesn't overly bother me.

I know dealers have been trying to dump Speed RR's since they're not moving and I'm actually in the perfectly odd niche for one. Have had a naked for 4 years but don't want a full fledged sportbike but still want a bit of fairing and more oomph. Friend recently got an S1KRR and I immediately fell in love with the cruise control and heated grips.

I had originally planned on a Tuono due to their laughable secondhand values but with the Speed RR's being dumped like mad I'm really all in on getting one now and curious how greedy people have been able to be with dealers?

I currently have a 23 being offered at $14999 + dock with no fees I really don't see that getting much better but was curious how far people have been able to push trade-in's or add-ons?

Last dealer I spoke with was willing to go $14.5K on a 22 RR but super low balled me on trading my Street RS only offering $7K, but me and my friend recently got a peek at the JD Power dealer trade values and saw my Street is suggested $8.2-8.3K trade-in for its condition and mileage.

Would you guys feel I'd be better holding fast for the $8K+ trade-in or might it be easier going for an extended warranty/free accessories? But sadly aside from the heated grips and tire monitoring there's not really much for the RR.

Just really curious what people on here have managed to haggle.
 
#2 ·
Hi. Can comment too much on values other than sheer disappointment on the Russian values of my RR. I've never ever lost so much on a bike (potentially as not sold it)
Thought I'd mention - Tpms is a complete waste as only works on Triumph standard tyre pressures of 36/43 which I don't think anyone ever runs and can't be altered - got mine switched off my the dealer as completely frustrating with all the error warnings.
The RR is a brilliant bike though. I like the riding position , way better than RS for long distance too. Electronic suspension is utterly awesome dealing with comfort and sport riding. I am flummoxed as to why it hasn't been a really popular bike ?
 
#3 ·
Oh that's good to know about the tpms that's an easy skip then.



I genuinely think it was the early reviews and mixed press that killed it and it never recovered despite smaller reviewers praising it.

Neeves' MCN review REALLY did damage it's highly negative for 90% of the review but he addresses all of his criticisms towards the end but think vast majority just hit the cliffnotes and ignore the full critique.



What it seemed to boil down too was reviews being way too critical and not understanding every person can't afford or doesn't have the space for multiple bikes. Every major press review always came down to "Well it's too aggressive to compete with the more comfortable hypernakeds on the market but not committed enough to match the fully fledged liter sportbikes. So just buy the fully dedicated bike instead."



But then you go look at smaller YouTubers and they generally heaped loads of praise and simply advised try sitting on it first because it's more aggressive than you might expect.



I genuinely don't find it that bad and felt the hyperfocused criticism on the ergonomics really unfair. I find the bar lean to be right in-between the baby Panigales and the S1KRR and the reviews saying "Well you'd never want to ride this for more than an hour or two" confusing that's why there's cruise control!?



Think people are just salty the RS didn't get electronic Ohlins.



It's been a while since I've sat on a Tuono Factory but those are pretty hyper aggressive from my recollection but look how many bike of the year awards it's won over the past decade.



MotoBob's review/interview video he did on it really shows the average riders' inputs and nearly everyone he spoke with said once they found their proper suspension set up the bike was brilliant even the inexperienced riders.

Sorry you lost a lot but at least you have the benefit of having an uncommon and eye catching bike now!
 
#4 ·
Have you ridden the Speed RR yet?
It's really something special!
It's smoother than the RS version with the electronic Ohllins fitted.
But, it's definitely a difficult pick btw a Tuono & a Speed - both are very "hyper".
 
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Yes I agree the reviews didn't do it any favours. Anyone who wants a sports bike just for the road should buy an RR. For sports bikes they are super comfortable. i've ridden mine from the UK to the south of Spain twice. Its awesome in the twisties - so much more so that say a GS. OK you can't get much luggage on it but plenty provided your not camping!
On the track - I traded in a 1299 panigale for it that I'd done 60+ track days on. I was worried I'd miss the pani on the track. I'm not a racer, but comfortably in the fast group at track days and guess what .. I didn't miss the panigale bag of clattery ****..... the RR was brilliant. So much easier to ride than the Panigale.
90% of the reviewers can't ride on a track for toffee, ok the RR isn't going to beat a Pani or S1000rr in the hands of a racer .. but they've got skills way above my head .. so all this its not as good as ... rubbish ... for anything other than racers or top 10% of fast track day riders the RR will be way above their skill level, and certainly massively easier to ride than the Panigale.
 
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Yes I agree the reviews didn't do it any favours. Anyone who wants a sports bike just for the road should buy an RR. For sports bikes they are super comfortable. i've ridden mine from the UK to the south of Spain twice. Its awesome in the twisties - so much more so that say a GS. OK you can't get much luggage on it but plenty provided your not camping!
On the track - I traded in a 1299 panigale for it that I'd done 60+ track days on. I was worried I'd miss the pani on the track. I'm not a racer, but comfortably in the fast group at track days and guess what .. I didn't miss the panigale bag of clattery ****..... the RR was brilliant. So much easier to ride than the Panigale.
90% of the reviewers can't ride on a track for toffee, ok the RR isn't going to beat a Pani or S1000rr in the hands of a racer .. but they've got skills way above my head .. so all this its not as good as ... rubbish ... for anything other than racers or top 10% of fast track day riders the RR will be way above their skill level, and certainly massively easier to ride than the Panigale.
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The previous owner of my Street actually had a custom adapter machined that allows a Givi top case and side panniers so bet someone dedicated could do similar.
 
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Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced rear stand? Heard the Speed 1200 has a bit of an odd size.
I can't suggest a specific stand as you are in the USA and wouldn't be worthwhile importing from Europe. Stand size is pretty common though - same as all the modern Ducatis - from the last 12 years at least - i used the one from my 1299 Panigale
 
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congratulations! I still owe $16k on the one i bought 5/22. I don't think i will ever buy a current year new bike again since used and old stock new are such a better deal. It was fun to have the latest greatest so to speak and i needed a bike because my D675 had the typical center rod bearing issue 3 weeks prior to an annual 3 day ride with a group of Ten guys, but wow that was a huge $ hit!

The only things i didn't like about the RR were the seemingly tall gearing (taller than RS) which required some clutch work in traffic, too much vibration in bars at cruise speeds, and too short of chain guard as it was flinging lube onto the tail body work. All of which i have modified to suit my needs. It is a brilliant bike that was the perfect nitch for me because my criteria list was electronic suspension, clip-ons, some wind protection, cruise cont., sport bike braking and handling. The only thing I'm not happy with is that I paid too much.
 
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congratulations! I still owe $16k on the one i bought 3/22. I don't think i will ever buy a current year new bike again since used and old stock new are such a better deal. It was fun to have the latest greatest so to speak and i needed a bike because my D675 had the typical center rod bearing issue 3 weeks prior to an annual 3 day ride with a group of Ten guys, but wow that was a huge $ hit!

The only things i didn't like about the RR were the seemingly tall gearing (taller than RS) which required some clutch work in traffic, too much vibration in bars at cruise speeds, and too short of chain guard as it was flinging lube onto the tail body work. All of which i have modified to suit my needs. It is a brilliant bike that was the perfect nitch for me because my criteria list was electronic suspension, clip-ons, some wind protection, cruise cont., sport bike braking and handling. The only thing I'm not happy with is that I paid too much.
Yeah I've only ever bought used so this is my first "new bike" so while excited still have a little pit in my stomach going "oof I really just dropped $14K+".


That's really too bad about the Daytona. The market is seriously drying up on them. 😞