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My engine shut down today in traffic (dark and raining, of course). Lights stayed on and the engine was still turning over from my forward momentum, but the tach indicated "0". I pulled to the shoulder and cycled both the kickstand and the kill switch. It fired back up and made my way back home. My question is, will the stand switch cause the symptoms I have described (lights on, engine turning over, no ignition, dead tach). Thanks in advance.

Also, Forchetto......you the man!
 
I may have missed something, but surely (on carbed bonnies at least) the sidestand switch cannot prevent the engine from starting (in neutral), it only kills the engine when you put it into gear with the stand down (or with a fault switch) If bike starts, but dies when you put it into gear, then most likely it is the sidestand switch (or wiring from the switch)
 
Yes my CB750 has that rubber toe. Simple, effective, inexpensive.

I wonder if there was some mandate somewhere that made manufacturers go to the electrical solution?
I don't think they have any law requiring the makers to provide that switch. HD's still don't use that crap switch. YOU forget to put the stand up you are going down with the first left hand turn.
 
My Ducati had a spring activated return as soon as you took the weight off the side stand. While I was inside at the dealership a shopper thought it was one of the bikes for sale and decided he would sit on it. He didn't realize the stand had popped up so he dropped it when he went to lean it back on the stand. Not a good day...
 
Forchetto, I don't suppose you have identified the plug used for the sidestand switch. I have removed the sidestand from my scrambler sidecar outfit, and see no point in leaving the switch in place. I'd like to blank it off by making a looped plug that I can put in place of the switch......then if the scram ever reverts to a bike again I haven't messed anything up......I could also carry one as a spare on my Bonnie in case it ever fails.

Thanks

Rob

I'm wondering if it is this one?

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/Econoseal/econoseal.html

3P Male Eco-S
 
:) Back in the 80's my wife had a Kawasaki, either a Z250 twin, or a Z400F, I can't remember. Anyway, it had a novel side stand device. The final drive sprocket had a welded on bar, about 2"" long, at right angles to the sprocket. When the sidestand was down, another welded on part stuck up in line with the other one. When the sprocket turned, the bar came into contact with the other part, and the stand was retracted. Sounds complicated, but it was dead simple. Kawasaki dropped the idea and went with the switch. Bad move IMO.
 
'Keep it lubricated' it says in the photo. Ooops! Something I omitted to do, and after 2 1/2 years it got stuck in yesterday, took me a few minutes to recite the 'Litany Of Fear' and work out what was going on......this puppy is being bypassed first thing in the morning! :(
 
Still have my switch intact. I don't remove it or by pass it because I know how scary it is to ride off with the kickstand down and then have the entire bike leap off the pavment the first left hand turn you make, It will flat out scare the crap out of you, if not kill you.

Trouble is if the bike won't start, you foget to check that switch, or it takes a bit of evaluation and brain fart time.
 
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Any chance these pictures can be restored?
Here's the general view of the switch and contact/wire colour identification for testing:

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And here's the way to bypass it, by shorting the black and brown wires together, preferably for emergency and testing purposes. The connector is behind the left side panel:

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