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Street triple 765r dead display

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#1 ·
Hi I’m new to the forum and could do with some help, the display on my 2018 765 r will not come on when I turn the ignition key. When I press the starter nothing happens, the only thing that comes on is the daytime running lights and the tail light + break lights work, I thought it might have been the battery so I’ve installed a brand new fully charged battery but the problem remains Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
#2 ·
Sounds like your TFT display went bad. Take it to a dealership and see if they will do a warranty replacement. If you are out of warranty ask if they will do a good faith replacement. You aen't the first to have this issue and Triumph certainly knows the displays have problems.
 
#6 ·
Add me to the list. :(

I changed my battery, turned on the ignition and all I have are headlights and taillights and a blank display. Literally right before the battery change, I ran the bike and the display was perfectly fine.

Unfortunately, I’m a year out of warranty. It’s too bad…up to this point (11k miles), the bike was absolutely perfect.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
#7 ·
Same exact problem for me. Rode the bike to buy a new battery. When installed no screen or start. Neither new or old battery works. Checked all fuses.
Add me to the list. :(

I changed my battery, turned on the ignition and all I have are headlights and taillights and a blank display. Literally right before the battery change, I ran the bike and the display was perfectly fine.

Unfortunately, I’m a year out of warranty. It’s too bad…up to this point (11k miles), the bike was absolutely perfect.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
#9 ·
TFT displays on newer Triumphs are failing at an alarming rate. KTM has the same issue but only on some models. It's not clear what make they are or from which country they are sourced but I suspect they might be from the same supplier. It'll get real tired real quick if the problem isn't resolved before most of these bikes are out of warranty. The fact that a failed TFT renders the bike unusable is the worse part of it all.
 
#17 ·
Personally, I've never liked the looks of TFT screens on bikes. And aside from the visual/look aspect, this has always been my worried that if/when it fails, you're kind of stuck. And even if it didn't have a reliability issue, what happens in 10-15 years if it needs to be fixed or replaced and they no longer make it for your particular bike model? It's not like you can simply swap it for an analog one. I personally love the look of the LCD/Analog Tach combo on the ST3 R model. LCD has all the info you need and love the look of a large tach next to it, which is more conventional and yet modern enough and still very practical. With a naked sport, you already miss the cockpit/fairing to begin with and on some brands/models, the TFTs look like a large iPhone. Too much of a "modern" look for me but to each his own.
 
#10 ·
That's terrible. It would scare the crap out of me knowing those TFT screens can just fail like that. I wouldn't want to be out somewhere 200 miles from home and have that happen.

I was within a "yes or no" on a phone call with the dealer right after I took delivery of my non-TFT screen 2021 Street Triple R, deciding whether to swap it out for an RS. In hindsight, I'm rather happy with the R and glad I didn't opt to swap it.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for the reply. That's not what I was hoping to hear but it's what I figured it would be. I work with quite a few electrical engineers. Maybe I can get one of them to take a look at it. Do you know if the TFT display can just be swapped out or is there some sort of programing required? I would prefer to avoid the 4 hr trip to the closest dealer if no programing is needed.
 
#19 ·
I'm another unhappy Triumph Street triple rs owner with a dead bike. Ignition on and the only response sounds like the pump priming everything else dead. I hate to think of this happening 1000 miles from home.. I've just spent the best part of £1000 on new tyres and a 12000. Mile service and it looks like I'm going to have to shell out another £1000. It's a great bike bit is it worth spending that kind of money on it? I don't think so. I'm going to get shot of it and buy Japanese. All the Japanese bikes I've had.in the past were 100,% reliable. Triumph. Never again.
 
#20 · (Edited)
Be assured the Street Triple is every bit as reliable as your average Japanese bike it's just that the TFT cluster Triumph is using is pants. Replacing it is an expensive exercise with no guarantee the replacement will last so a number of owners are looking to replace the TFT with the digital/analog cluster off the R model which is as trouble free as all the earlier models. I fully understand you wanting to be rid of it though. What's disappointing is Triumph not seeming to be addressing the issue - they must have replaced 100's of clusters under warranty, you'd think they would have got the message by now.
 
#24 ·
I am the second owner of a 2018 Street Triple R with ~13k miles that just experienced this. I had previously changed my battery with no issue and recently tried to install some Denali DRLs. Disconnected the battery and installed one light and when I tried to turn on the bike but display was dead, the headlights wouldn't turn on but the factory DRLs and brake lights would work but the engine obviously wouldn't start.

The dealership said it was shorted and couldn't turn it on, the replacement was $1135!! Oof, now I am all nervous about even trying to reinstall the DRLs. The dealership said they've only seen this issue 5 times and wouldn't do a courtesy repair since it was out of warranty.
 
#26 · (Edited)
The dealership said it was shorted and couldn't turn it on, the replacement was $1135!! Oof, now I am all nervous about even trying to reinstall the DRLs. The dealership said they've only seen this issue 5 times and wouldn't do a courtesy repair since it was out of warranty.
They're saying they've only seen this issue 5 times as if it's no big deal. Multiply that by however many dealers have experienced the issue and all those owners that have attended to it themselves by just buying a new unit. Triumph MUST know it's an issue. There are several posters on this forum who, despite loving the bike, are nervous enough about this they are selling their bikes before it fails again. And there are a couple who are investigating if they can replace the TFT with the LCD/analog cluster off the R model and still retain functionality.
 
#28 · (Edited)
There must be plenty of dead displays by now and they probably just get thrown in the trash which is a shame. I'm sure if an enthusiastic forum member with some electronic skills down to component level on surface mount PCBs could get hold of a couple of dead units they might be able to figure out what's actually failing. It might be something as simple as a dry joint or a bit of corrosion. If it's a chip failure then getting the firmware information will be nigh on impossible. Trouble is you probably need a bike next to you so you can keep plugging it in to check as you go.
 
#30 ·
Hi all - My friend at work has a 2017 ST765 RS and has this EXACT issue. Has used the bike 3/4 times this summer - went to get it out a week or so ago, nothing, dead display. Pump priming sound and nothing more. After googling its clear this is a common issue, and is costing people upwards of £1000 to replace - His next option will be to battle it out with the Triumph dealership he bought it from (but it was over a year ago).

However has anybody tried an aftermarket screen? As annoying as it may be to not have the 'Original' Part - chances are these are more reliable, and far cheaper than £1000
Heres a link to a couple - None have any reviews though - but would be keen to know if anybody has took the plunge and been happy with it.



Cheers
 
#32 · (Edited)
Hi all - My friend at work has a 2017 ST765 RS and has this EXACT issue. Has used the bike 3/4 times this summer - went to get it out a week or so ago, nothing, dead display. Pump priming sound and nothing more. After googling its clear this is a common issue, and is costing people upwards of £1000 to replace - His next option will be to battle it out with the Triumph dealership he bought it from (but it was over a year ago).

However has anybody tried an aftermarket screen? As annoying as it may be to not have the 'Original' Part - chances are these are more reliable, and far cheaper than £1000
Heres a link to a couple - None have any reviews though - but would be keen to know if anybody has took the plunge and been happy with it.
Unfortunately the aftermarket units you referenced need a LOT of work and knowledge to get working on current model Triumphs. Getting them to communicate with the ECU to allow the bike to run is the first hurdle and even then they lack the capability of duplicating and thus controlling many of the features that attract people to buy these bikes.
Multiple rider modes linked to the mapping suite, throttle response, differing levels of traction control, TSA switching, variable and switchoffable ABS, auto off turn signal switching, wheelie control, customisable display arrays etc etc. There may well be someone well versed in such things but even then they will need access to Triumphs firmware. And in the absence of Triumph ever likely making this available that means interrogating an existing fully functioning TFT/ECU combination. Anyone able to do that would charge mightily for such service thus wiping out the cost saving of an aftermarket unit. If done successfully then, admittedly, they may well prove more durable than the OEM item but until someone manages it we'll never know. I also suspect anyone able to do such work would probably be able to fault find and possibly repair defective OEM units which is why I suggested getting hold of some dead units would be helpful. I wonder if the ones being replaced are returned to Triumph by the dealer or are they simply thrown in the trash?
 
#31 ·
That is very interesting, wonder how well they work. The PDF download does not have install instructions. It says :
  • Important: Installation requires knowledge of the motorcycle electrical system, in case of doubt have it installed by a professional workshop
So does that mean you need to splice in a wire harness connector? It would be nice if it was just plug and play. At least you get a nice picture of what the plug looks like.
 
#33 ·
Here is a video describing and founding the problem. I have seen many posts on the Rat forum about the same issue with the dash not working and needing a replacement.
TFT Dash died after some good rain here in Canada. The bike is kept in storage during winter. all electrical has been checked because I couldn't believe that a triumph 2018 Dash would die... well it was drenched. After setting it up in a zip lock, with salt and rice. I left it inside the house at 24deg nothing happened. So I then left it outside in 35deg weather under the sun and believe it or not water droplets were all around the bag! I have paid full price for a luxurious motorcycle, which is deemed the best. now that bike is useless... cannot be started, and the Dash on its on is 1350cad + shop service to program it 140/hr... I am not the only one with this issue around the globe! I am calling out Triumph manufacturers to test their products better! it's a 4-year bike and I cannot afford a new screen for a while so can't ride that bike. I was thinking of getting a tiger next year, this makes me wonder if I should! make this go around! it is unacceptable to have big names like this not doing a recall. If it would have died while driving I could have felt... Let it sink that in for a minute! r/Triumph Motorcycles
 
#34 · (Edited)
I may have been a little hasty in dismissing the aftermarket alternatives suggested by X99MYKE. Beta has just launched their new lineup of bikes and have opted to fit them with Trail Tech Voyager instrument clusters rather than design a bespoke unit. I'm not suggesting this unit will work in place of failing Triumph TFTs but it made me rethink my earlier comments. On further reading the first unit proposed looks great, is keenly priced and it specifically says it is suitable for TFT equipped R and RS models. We just need someone to give it shot.

 
#38 · (Edited)
Hey Steed, you're the first to have at least taken a look at the inside of a failed TFT. And straightaway we can see who actually makes them, COBO S.p.A.


COBO is a huge organisation and they manufacture and supply devices to the automotive industry (trucks, cars and motorcycles) and to the industrial plant and heavy equipment sector the world over. Where the Triumph unit is made isn't clear, could be Italy or India.
The operating system adopted by Triumph for use in these devices is SCIOPTA and the comms network for the canBUS between the cluster and the ECU appears to be ALTIA, both of which are new to me.

As I said before we need an electronics enthusiast with an interest in Triumphs to get involved.

In the meantime are you going to try and reattach the capacitor, what have you got to lose?