I know one guy who did that. But it needs some important metalwork to fit, and the fuel range and level gets inexact.

Bottom line... I have made a lot of long range trips with my speedmaster along the years. Around 50K in long trips at 10 different countries, even on morocco (north of Africa) supposed to be a "third world low availability area" and never found in any trouble for lack of fuel range.

200-220 km are more than enough for any realistic usage for this bike (it is not a trail bike that could make sense to use to cross a dessert...)

At first I was also a bit "worried" about tank. But after some time I realized it was a silly worry.

And not only me - there was a german firm that produced and used to sell a large capacity tank designed for the speedy and the bobber. They stopped offering because sales were so low they decided not practical to keep production. It seems they took like 3 - 4 years to sell only a few first test production units.

If you really feel your personal use implies more fuel need a jerry can placed in the rear rack should be more simple and cheap to install. And also nice as practical need test. At least two guys have commented to start using that, and after a few rides deciding it made no sense to keep bringing as never really needed.

 

I completely agree with Jesus on this. No need for a larger tank. In fact, it's kind of handy being forced to stop every couple of hours to refuel, as it's an opportunity to stretch, get a snack, use the restroom, etc.
I tried the jerry can approach for a few long rides, and never once had to use it.

 

You are one of those couple of guys I have heard in fact

 

I rode my 2018 speedmaster across Canada and back. Total mileage 12000 kilometers. The only thing you must be aware of is that your Speedmaster tank will do approx. 150 miles or 240km per tank. I think most modern countries have fuel facilities within this range. I was going to put a spare emergency bottle of fuel but thought I would never be needing it because I would stop at the next town, top up the tank and then ride on. Also even with a Corbin seat, it's still was good to get off the bike for few minutes every few hours.

 

I rode my 2018 speedmaster across Canada and back. Total mileage 12000 kilometers. The only thing you must be aware of is that your Speedmaster tank will do approx. 150km per tank. I think most modern countries have fuel facilities within this range. I was going to put a spare emergency bottle of fuel but thought I would never be needing it because I would stop at the next town, top up the tank and then ride on. Also even with a Corbin seat, it's still was good to get off the bike for few minutes every few hours.

150 km per tank??

That's a truly low mileage. Should be able to make much more than that.

The effective capacity of tank before being too low to eventually pump have troubles to get the gas is around 11-11.5 litres.

The right consumption should be between 4.5 and 5 l/100km if driving at regular speeds and roads - lets say under 130 km/h. That should give you an effective range before running empty between 220 and 250 km

Maybe you mean 150 km before reserve lite on?

 

Maybe you mean 150 km before reserve lite on?
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Yes you are correct. I use 150km as a safe distance. Of course you can get a bit farther but I do find it nerve racking if you are watching the reserve lite as you frantically look for a gas station cursing yourself for passing that last gas station just because they did not have premium. True story

 

Yes you are correct. I use 150km as a safe distance. Of course you can get a bit farther but I do find it nerve racking if you are watching the reserve lite as you frantically look for a gas station cursing yourself for passing that last gas station just because they did not have premium. True story

Sure.

In fact I only keep the light when I am driving locally - Do daily routes like 40-50 km for work, shopping, etc. And there are dozens of gas stations in the area where I move.

I stop in my favorite gas station only every 4-5 days when I know it is not going to safely cover the next day over.

For rides and touring, as already said, it makes no sense to keep driving after more than 70-80 minutes. Even at highway speed that is not enough even to see the reserve light. So yet you should stop for comfort and safety to do some rest, stretch legs... no better place to do than a gas station, and no better "relax" activity than take the chance to refill.

My personal record is 1600 km (1000 miles) in one single ride. To accomplish an Iron Butt Association challenge.

I made 10 stops that day. And saw the reserve light on only before two of them - the other 8 refills the tank still had more than that, but why not to refill?

 

I have gone 150 miles before filling up. I consistently get 50-55 mpg and that is riding with a fairly heavy throttle input. At 3.1 gallons, at 55 mpg you would get 165 miles. I feel comfortable going to 150 miles before a fill up. If I'm on a road trip, I'll see where the gas stations are in advance. So I might fill up sooner if needed. This is my experience with the mileage.

 

LOL yes, I meant 150 MILES not 150km ...I have correct my mistake in my post but it seems I'm always screwing up with miles vs kms.

 

200-220km per tank here, too, just to add to the database.

I admire the folks who are not bothered by the range. I guess I'm spoiled... my ADV bike will go 550km or so. For me, every ride on the Speedmaster requires a gas stop, which takes a bit of planning where I live. I would have put this on the bike's (very short) list of deficiencies.

 

200-220km per tank here, too, just to add to the database.

I admire the folks who are not bothered by the range. I guess I'm spoiled... my ADV bike will go 550km or so. For me, every ride on the Speedmaster requires a gas stop, which takes a bit of planning where I live. I would have put this on the bike's (very short) list of deficiencies.

Your usual activity with the ADV is sit over it, press start, and don't stop it until the mileage counts 500, doing all the way without passing near one single gas station??

I honestly doubt it.

Even in Canada I would say real hard to find a way to do such distance by asphalt roads without repeating places and never be less than a couple kilometers to a gas station.

You probably start and stop about same number of times, and having one of those stops in one of those gas stations instead of whatever place means very low care, effort or time spending.

I mean, unless you move in a real deserted area, doing unusual long stages, it is probably simply a matter of "use to think". And you could find yourself in the same "lack of use" if your other vehicle had 900 km range and now changing to the ADV...

 

Regarding that difference between "what I use to" and "what I need to", as commented past year I made a long touring trip in morocco. That's Africa - undoubtedly less fuel coverage than in any occident country. The trip crossed 4000 km from the northern more developed area of Tanger to the south sahara area (THATS truly "deserted") and back.

I was in a group of ten bikes. And the others were mostly trail bikes so no doubt, the lowest fuel range.

Did that mean anything for me? not at all... as it is logical even in the longest stages we made planned stops every 70-80 minutes, always in a gas station (what better place than that to stop?). So every stop refill and that's all.

What happened with other "high range" guys? Many times at the stop someone said "nah, I still have a lot fuel, we were driving slow and enough for next" - the guide "sure? take the chance, at the end you take same time to fill half tank twice than a full tank once", and they "no, no, no need to".

Result: Three times along the trip, one of those guys had to take over and claim "ey, ey, I am running out of fuel, how long to next?" and forced the group to make an unplanned stop.

Not me. Those with a large fuel range. If I were alone, I would have made fewer stops than then.

 

'THATS truly "deserted"' ... you get that this is illogical, right? If you're able to find a gas station on your route every 200km, it is specifically not deserted.

You are weirdly defensive about this.

 

I've carried 2 litres of spare fuel now for 4 summers, not had occasion to use it yet, it does get refreshed each winter to avoid deterioration but thinking about scrapping it altogether...

 

@Scrammy I really do not understand why, but it is obvious you are not reacting/answering to what I have written, but to what you have decided to imagine I wrote.

As a simple resume, the reason most of us here (not only me) are not bothered because of this bike range is not in any manner admirable, strange or hard to understand. The reason is for 99% of regular owners of this bike, making a regular use, using it on regular places, 220-240 km fuel range is more than enough for any need.

From that on, the reasons you being or not part of the other 1%, or the experiences that make you not be like the other 99% are only a matter of yourself.

But it is a fact you are not the norm but the exception. If you feel offended for me telling you that I am very sorry and I apologize, but that is the objective truth.

And whatever your experience, location, life or whatever, you are no one to consider I should not tell here about how I had no problems with the fuel range in an specially undercovered trip.

From now on, if all that is nice for you perfect. But if not... there is nothing more to clear or explain.

Hakuna Matata.

 

Since nobody else wants to help... no, I'm not aware there is an aftermarket option for this. I don't know where in Aus you live, but I ride in the Northern Rivers for several weeks each year. Even there, which is pretty civilized, a 200km range requires some planning if you're not near the coast. I can understand your interest in this mod, but I suspect something in the Rotopax range might be the answer.

 

I know there is a 16+ liter tank for the Bobber made by Wunderkind-Custom that you could check out. It's made for the Bobber, so I don't know if it would fit on the Speedmaster, though.

 

That is the one I meantioned was sold in the past but not available anymore. They stop selling it more than one year ago.

 

Thanks for the clarification, Jesus .

 

That's what friends are for.

I know that clear because 3 years ago, when I bought the bike, initially worried by the reduced max range compared to my two previous bikes, I was studying to buy. Asked for price, availability, delivery, etc.

After some time using the bike, I realized there was no real need to change.

But past summer I had a crash and the tank was damaged, so I thought, "Maybe it's time to upgrade." I asked the shop I got the information in 2022 and they answered that around one year before they called for availability and the distributor answered "no stock and no expect to restock."

 

Interesting that you checked into that. I was interested as well when I first learned of that tank. But that tank is not really as visually suitable to the Speedmaster. For me, as for you, range turned out not to have been an issue, and the existing tank looks proportionally correct for the size of the bike. Personally, I'm glad I kept the tank as is.

 

Interesting that you checked into that. I was interested as well when I first learned of that tank. But that tank is not really as visually suitable to the Speedmaster. For me, as for you, range turned out not to have been an issue, and the existing tank looks proportionally correct for the size of the bike. Personally, I'm glad I kept the tank as is.

I have seen only once, in pictures, a speedy with the biggerbobber tank.

It had a very colorful drawing paint, so hard to compare the result, but did not look too big. I would say not enough difference to be clearly noticeable. When you see it you notice something is not as usual, but not fastly obvious. Like when your wife goes hairdressing, have a very slight shortcut and you guess maybe something changed but you're not sure to ask.

Keep in mind having 30% more space does not mean measures increased by 30% - it is tridimensional volume, and pump space is kept same, so external measures are increased only in a small amount.

Either way not much to consider now it is gone... 😅

This was my point about planning. I'd say, too, that it's worth remembering the fuel pump is cooled by being immersed in fuel, so riding the tank empty isn't a habit I'd make.

I imagine you will enter into rage for me commenting, but what cools the pump is the fuel moving inside, not by being immersed inside the fuel around. That's why you should not try run the bike with tank empty of fuel, as it could overheat, but no reason to keep much spare fuel - The pump gets cooled exactly the same in a full tank, than with only 1mm over the intake line.

In fact due to fluid physics air and liquid inside a tank full of fuel will have a slightly higher temperature than an almost empty one with same environmental conditions - but either way only a few degrees more, nothing to matter.

The reason fuel pump is usually placed inside the tank is saving space, and reducing risk of fuel vaporization in previous aspiration by cavitation. Not because they keep cooler into the fuel.

I mean with this clearing, if you use to do like always refuel when you still have one third of tank or something similar to avoid overheat risk, no need to - as long as you keep it not going the remain distance number to reach to zero the "cooling level" of the pump will be exactly the same when it says "200 km to empty" than when it says "2 km to empty".

 

I imagine you will enter into rage for me commenting, but what cools the pump is the fuel moving inside, not by being immersed inside the fuel around. That's why you should not try run the bike with tank empty of fuel, as it could overheat, but no reason to keep much spare fuel - The pump gets cooled exactly the same in a full tank, than with only 1mm over the intake line.

In fact due to fluid physics air and liquid inside a tank full of fuel will have a slightly higher temperature than an almost empty one with same environmental conditions - but either way only a few degrees more, nothing to matter.

The reason fuel pump is usually placed inside the tank is saving space, and reducing risk of fuel vaporization in previous aspiration by cavitation. Not because they keep cooler into the fuel.

I mean with this clearing, if you use to do like always refuel when you still have one third of tank or something similar to avoid overheat risk, no need to - as long as you keep it not going the remain distance number to reach to zero the "cooling level" of the pump will be exactly the same when it says "200 km to empty" than when it says "2 km to empty".

This is incorrect information. But I'm not going to let you draw me into another gaslighting episode to feed your need for attention. Ride your bike as you wish. I'm quite confident of my qualifications to offer that advice.

 

Of course all of us can drive our bike as we want.

Because of that most drivers refill only when fuel is running out, after seing the "reserve" light, frequently trying to save time in "distance controled areas" like using the bike for short daily displacements, and there is NOT ONE SINGLE known statistic or studies that show an incidence of fuel pump fails or life reduction for "not keeping the tank over 1/3" or similar.

Not one single manufacturer, not one single brand have noticed that nor made any recommendation to follow such way. It is known running out of fuel can cause problems, and that's the only advice every brand does.

I know a guy who used to always fill his tank daily before reaching home only because once he had troubles for an unexpected gas station closing causing a delay in a very important attendance. He sais "I will never miss another appointment because I start the bike in the morning without enough fuel".

But he would never dare to recommend others "that's the way things should be done" - his own use for his own reasons.

It is always 100% respectable someone to say "I prefer to do things that way because that make me happier/quiet of mind" or whatever. Nothing that could be discussed.

But to comment something as "a general advice" for others you should be based on true verified compared data.

 

...NOT ONE SINGLE known statistic or studies ...

...Not one single manufacturer, not one single brand ...

I know a guy...

This is baiting and disinformation, not constructive discussion.

... his own use for his own reasons... it is always 100% respectable someone to say "I prefer to do things that way because that make me happier/quiet of mind...

Where was this spirit of tolerance earlier in the thread? Someone wants information about extending their fuel range, and instead you tell them they don't need to and mock anyone who disagrees. Other people agree that the range of this bike is sometimes inconvenient, and you dismiss them based on your own good luck and no knowledge of who they are, how they ride, what they enjoy and care about, or where they live.

Look at me. I said I wouldn't post again, and here I am. I'm going to put you on Ignore now. It's not personal... I just like these forums as places to learn and enjoy a sense of community.

 

I feel comfortable going to 150 miles before a fill up. If I'm on a road trip, I'll see where the gas stations are in advance. So I might fill up sooner if needed. This is my experience with the mileage.

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