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For the OP or anyone else that is using the KKE wheels, have your tried mounting a 110 tire. I know the KKE front wheel is .25” thinner than stock. I also emailed KKE about using a wider 110 tire and their response none committal based on how I interpreted there use of English. So looking to current customers for guidance to see if a 110 tire works with the KKE front.
I am wondering the same thing - I have a set of these rims that arrived today; the bike only has 900 miles so not putting new rubber on yet but wanting Michelin Anakee Adventure hoops for next time.

I did find this, so maybe it’s possible?

 
I am wondering the same thing - I have a set of these rims that arrived today; the bike only has 900 miles so not putting new rubber on yet but wanting Michelin Anakee Adventure hoops for next time.

I did find this, so maybe it’s possible?

Very helpful. Based in their chart, a 110/80 tire will fit a rim that is 2.15-3.00”. The KKE front is 2.5”, so possible. I would still like to have another source or real world experience to confirm.
 
One issue is these are currently out of stock. I emailed them a couple of days ago asking about availability and they said the hubs were backordered. They also said if I purchased them now they would be built and shipped in 1-2 months. I'm very leery of spending $1500 and hoping they get built/shipped.
I contacted Woody's Wheels and they can build out my old wheels with new hoops/spokes and seal them to run tubeless for about the same price as the KKE wheels. I'm thinking that's the route I'll go if I decide to go tubeless.
 
One issue is these are currently out of stock. I emailed them a couple of days ago asking about availability and they said the hubs were backordered. They also said if I purchased them now they would be built and shipped in 1-2 months. I'm very leery of spending $1500 and hoping they get built/shipped.
I contacted Woody's Wheels and they can build out my old wheels with new hoops/spokes and seal them to run tubeless for about the same price as the KKE wheels. I'm thinking that's the route I'll go if I decide to go tubeless.
I discussed this with Woody's Wheels. As I recall they said the KKE wheels were made by a subsidiary of a parent company whose other subsidiary makes tubeless wheels for BMW (although I haven't been able to independenetly verify that); if true, then likely not quite the same quality as the BMW wheels but at least a good pedigree. Also, they suggested that the original T100 wheels were likely heavier but also stronger than the KKE wheels would be. I decided to have Woody's seal my existing T100 wheels with the Outex kit but did not get new hoops or spokes (they did adjust the spokes to ensure the wheels were true). This seemed like a less expensive way to move to tubeless wheels and if for some reason I have issues in the future I will consider the KKE wheels or having Woody's build true tubeless wheels for me. After a 2-week, 3,000-mile road trip and quite a few trips here in the mountains of Colorado the Outex sealed wheels are doing great with no loss of air.
 
One issue is these are currently out of stock. I emailed them a couple of days ago asking about availability and they said the hubs were backordered. They also said if I purchased them now they would be built and shipped in 1-2 months. I'm very leery of spending $1500 and hoping they get built/shipped.
I contacted Woody's Wheels and they can build out my old wheels with new hoops/spokes and seal them to run tubeless for about the same price as the KKE wheels. I'm thinking that's the route I'll go if I decide to go tubeless.
Good insight. Thank you. I've seen them available on ebay so I'm not sure what that means. Are they in stock or will it be months of waiting if bought through eBay.


I discussed this with Woody's Wheels. As I recall they said the KKE wheels were made by a subsidiary of a parent company whose other subsidiary makes tubeless wheels for BMW (although I haven't been able to independenetly verify that); if true, then likely not quite the same quality as the BMW wheels but at least a good pedigree. Also, they suggested that the original T100 wheels were likely heavier but also stronger than the KKE wheels would be. I decided to have Woody's seal my existing T100 wheels with the Outex kit but did not get new hoops or spokes (they did adjust the spokes to ensure the wheels were true). This seemed like a less expensive way to move to tubeless wheels and if for some reason I have issues in the future I will consider the KKE wheels or having Woody's build true tubeless wheels for me. After a 2-week, 3,000-mile road trip and quite a few trips here in the mountains of Colorado the Outex sealed wheels are doing great with no loss of air.
Good to hear you're happy. I need to call them and see what the tubeless options entail. Is it just outtex or do they offer other options?

It's not a huge deal but traveling with a pump and plug kit is much easier and less of a space hog than spare tubes, spoons, talc, lube and a pump. In town its a call to my wife to throw the hitch carrier in the truck and come get me vs just plugging it on the side of the road.

What was there turnaround time of Woody's? Odd have to ship the rims to them as they're not local.
 
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Kicking this old thread to see how these have held up and if there have been any issues.
I can report in the time I have had them, dated by this thread, they have been flawless for me. I have zero issues with fit, finish, function, air retention is as extremely good, same or better than the previous tubes. There is nothing negative I can say with my experience to this point.
 
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Good insight. Thank you. I've seen them available on ebay so I'm not sure what that means. Are they in stock or will it be months of waiting if bought through eBay.
I think it's often a timing thing around whatever might be coming to them. And teh T100/T120 is probably not a huge seller fro them to be honest. When I was initially shopping I wanted a certain color hub, and that would have had a fairly lengthy lead time but I was expecting that based on what I had read and our early discussions. However they had another color hub set already in transit and offered me a fair discount to make the switch, which I did and that sped things up considerably, to a surprising degree actually. I don't think there is any magic through eBay that they wouldn't communicate to you directly. You either get what's available or wait for what isn't. And I had heard the BMW connection before as well. I would think there might be a difference in spoke gauge but looking at the rim design you can certainly see where that might be possible.

The AI response to a quick Google search on the topic shows this:

BMW is the manufacturer of their own tubeless spoked wheels. Alpina also makes tubeless spoked wheels for BMW motorcycles.

Explanation:

BMW
BMW builds their tubeless spoked wheels using a CNC machine. They have a cross-spoke pattern with the nipple at the hub.

Alpina
Alpina has a long history of making spokes and nipples for motorcycles and bicycles. They make tubeless spoked wheels for BMW motorcycles, including the BMW R Nine T Racer and BMW F900 XR.

Spoke wheels are made of thin metal wires that connect the outer rim to the central hub. They are more durable than cast wheels, which are made from a single piece.
 
I'm blowing the dust off of this thread...

@nnervous have you had any issue with squealing brakes with the KKE rims? I have a 2018 T120 that didn't have the rubber dampers, and the stock rotors would squeal. I replaced the stock rotors with T100 rotors which quieted things down.
KKE notes that their rims won't accept the stock dampers which made me wonder how they deal with possible squeal.
 
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@nnervous,
These rims are advertized as "Triumph Bonneville T120/T100 2021-2024",
was that the case when you bought them? Your bike seems to be from 2019.
I'm interested in these and I own a 2016 T120. Would there be any fitting problems?
I can't speak to that because I just don't know. That is something I would take up directly with them for clarification. That said I seem to recall some other posts questioning the same thing and I don't know if they were ever resolved. When I ordered my set in late 2022 they were listed specific to my generation/model years and I don't think they were offering the latest generation version yet. Perhaps they are now offering an updated version as well, or perhaps they are all that same. Not sure of the interchangeability. I'd be curious to see what you learn.
 
I don't know about significantly.

In my case I used new T100 front discs as well which are lighte than the OEM T120 discs. I can tell you that the complete KKE/Metzeler/T100 front assembly weighed in a full 6 pounds less that the oem wheel, tire and discs. Not an insignificant amount, of which I think the T100 discs make up about four of those pounds lost.

For just KKE wheel weights here is what I measured. This is without any discs, sprocket, drive assy, etc. Just the raw wheel assys.

KKE Front wheel only - 13.42#
KKE Rear wheel only - 15.43#

Because I never had the OEM tires off of the original wheels I had no way to weigh the OEM wheels in the same state but I can tell you the KKE wheels do not feel that much lighter than stock, they are solid.
thanks for this right up! I'm interested in tubeless for the same reasons you mentioned.
 
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Two Year Update:
Since these continue to generate interest and there has been a lot of great follow up info added I thought I would just add this for now having had and used them the last couple years. Bottom line is that they have been as good as I woudl expect any wheel to be. I can offer nothing negative at this stage. They have worked very well, canuse zero grief, look as good as when they went on and their air retention has been incredible. I don't know if that was just a product of a very good install, compatibility with the Metzlers or what but the bike sat all winter, which was a long cold one here in the northeast, from November to May and when I check the pressures before the first ride they were both within one pound of where they were left and right in the 32/36 psi range I use. I was surprised. I have had other tubless that would lose that every coupel weeks or monthly. I still remain fully satisfied with this decision.
 
Two Year Update:
Since these continue to generate interest and there has been a lot of great follow up info added I thought I would just add this for now having had and used them the last couple years. Bottom line is that they have been as good as I woudl expect any wheel to be. I can offer nothing negative at this stage. They have worked very well, canuse zero grief, look as good as when they went on and their air retention has been incredible. I don't know if that was just a product of a very good install, compatibility with the Metzlers or what but the bike sat all winter, which was a long cold one here in the northeast, from November to May and when I check the pressures before the first ride they were both within one pound of where they were left and right in the 32/36 psi range I use. I was surprised. I have had other tubless that would lose that every coupel weeks or monthly. I still remain fully satisfied with this decision.
Thanks for the update. It's good to know they're holding up well. I bought a set in black a couple of months ago. So far I'm very pleased with them. It was a bit of a hassle actually getting them, parts shortages, trade wars, etc. but they showed up quicker than I expected. They're holding air well and my T120 seems to like them.
 
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Thanks for the update. It's good to know they're holding up well. I bought a set in black a couple of months ago. So far I'm very pleased with them. It was a bit of a hassle actually getting them, parts shortages, trade wars, etc. but they showed up quicker than I expected. They're holding air well and my T120 seems to like them.
I think you'll find they were worth the effort. I was reminded again today how much a PITA tubes can be. Out riding my e-Bike today, a few short miles from home and a few minutes into my usual canal trail I find I have a rear flat. I have the tools on board to to do a tube repair on site but I simply didn't want the hassle. If that was tubeless I would have been plugged, filled and on my way in 5 minutes, Instead I had an hour+ walk home pusing the bike with a flat tire. Didn't love that.
 
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