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Cheap OBD LX

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#1 ·
Not sure were to post this , just received OBD Lx Bluetooth adaptor (been using cheap vLinker MC+) as the Lx is pretty expensive . Seller on Ebay selling Obdlink LX Scantool for £17.80 plus £19.85 delivery so £37.70 total "pretty cheap ! " was bit skeptical but . received it today run Lx software checked out ok and installed updates ok . Thought this might be useful
Can post link if allowed
 
#4 · (Edited)
It was recognized as OBD LX device (even the serial number is ok ) and installed latest firmware , the adaptor is black rather than green and missing the faceplate . Label on it seems genuine but its dated 2016 though , opened up and chipset looks correct for LX I was bit suspicious seems fine with loading Tune ECU maps . At a guess I would say they are genuine a LX but intended as bundle with diagnostic package hence the missing faceplate (custom one would be fitted ) different color and no packaging . They could be a job lot seller has acquired for next to nothing , maybe contents of a liquidation sale ?
Some feedback on item
"This product is genuine and confirmed by the guys at OBDLink. Product firmware able to be updated on the official app. Latest update would be 5.6.19"
seller sold a few and as yet no negative feed back
 
#5 ·
Not trying to sound preachy, nor is it my intent to question the OP's choice. Just wanted to share what I found when I looked at OBD adapters a few months ago. I'm guessing the only difference between the vLinker MC+ and the OBDLink LX+ is transfer rate. And under our Triumph-specific use case, maybe not even that. See post #39 at this link for an interesting comparison of test results between the vLinker MC+ and the OBDLink MX+ (the MX+ is an upgraded version of the LX+). The cliff notes version is that there was no difference in performance between the two adapters except for one esoteric automotive-based test ("proxy align") for which the vLinker was slower (60 seconds vs. 20 seconds). I've used the vLinker MC+ to reflash the ECU's software on my Thruxton and it completed the operation without any drama. The OBDLink adapter could conceivably have done it faster, but a few seconds wouldn't seem to be worth the 2X difference in price (at least not to me).

I've looked at the EBay auction for the reduced price OBDLink LX+ (just search EBay for OBDLink LX+ and you'll find it; it's on both the US and the UK sites). The OP as well as a few others here have reported that it works fine, so there's that. But there are a few red flags. The auction description says "Does Not Apply" in the 'Brand' field (why doesn't it say OBDLink?). Manufacturer's part number is also given as "Does Not Apply". There's also this: "The item may be a factory second, or a new, unused item with defects". None of the other competing (and more expensive) auctions for the same adapter say this.

As @andymath138 says, it's probably just an older model purchased via a liquidation, but if so, I'm not sure why it wouldn't be stated as such in the auction description. If I knew for certain this is a genuine unmarked LX+ that's a few years old but which can be brought up to date with a firmware reflash, I'd be all over it. But the auction seems deliberately deceptive and that gives me pause.

This is probably all splitting hairs, as I guess it doesn't really matter if it's genuine or not so long as it works. And it apparently does. I have a hard time buying pre-owned clothes, too, so this could just be a me issue. The chance that that pair of jeans used to belong to a serial killer is just too much for me to disregard. The inexpensive vLinker works fine and knowing that Ted Bundy didn't own it before me gives me comfort :)

Maybe @andymath138 can update this thread if anything changes regarding the future reliability of the cut-price LX+. And since you've used both adapters, it would also be interesting to know if you perceive any differences between the two (speed, etc).
 
#6 ·
The listing title says "Obdlink LX Scantool Bluetooth Professional OBD-II Scan Tool OBD" and one of pics in listing shows specification label plus the adaptor updates to latest firmware ok . Think the v linker is more likely to fail if voltage goes low as its 5v chip set opposed to 3.3 v on LX , but then you should connect charger or extra battery connected . Wouldn't pay the £90 for an LX over the far cheaper V linker though (got my v linker very cheap from AliExpress £20 )
 
#8 ·
Most cheap Bluetooth OBD readers work ok with Tune ECU but won't have full functionality ie re-map function wont work and you won't be able to disable O2 sensors . The V linker mc is the only cheaper Bluetooth OBD reader with Tune ECU full functionality , these tend to sell for about £45 unless you find one on an AliExpress deal . Next is the Bluetooth OBD LX reader , full functionality but very expensive , advantages over v Linker mc , its faster and some have had v Linker fail to upload , maybe due to low battery voltage on bike ? due to longer up load . If your not wanting to upload re-maps then the OBD LX is unnecessary . To be honest the v Linker is good enough and third of the price of LX just make sure either charger is connected or extra battery connected
 
#10 ·
As the OBDLink LX+ is the gold standard, I'd really like to have one. But for as infrequently as I'd need to use it, I've accepted whatever shortcomings the cheaper vLinker MC+ may have. Can't say that I've seen any, but it still feels like settling for second best.

Based on Andy's experience, I may go ahead and spring for one of these mystery meat adapters myself. I've contacted the EBay seller to see if he's willing to provide any insight into the pedigree of the product. At $40 shipped there's not that much to lose. I'll report back if I learn anything.
 
#13 ·
Thanks. I'll follow your lead and update the firmware when mine arrives. Yes, I just placed an order. Seller got back to me quickly with what I thought was a reasonable explanation. Here it is:

We bought approx 499 pieces from a Sydney Auction in 1 bundle. Most were green, some were black and some without caps. I would have suspected factory issues or counterfeits. So we listed very cheap. All the greens and blacks with faces sold fast. Very fast. We then listed the ones without caps . We have approx 10 left.

I have relied on the feedbacks we received on these which you can check. Most people seem to mention them legit OBD, others verify it to be authentic with ODB, 1 fellow advised counterfeit in his feeddback, all feedbacks indicated the units to have worked well.
 
#21 ·
I would not mind spending $100.

But if you can get something proven to be the same by $40... why spend more?

I was the first one saying "better not trust most unknown bargains".

But every brand, including OBDLink make sometimes special volume prices for some manufacturers. And some times those volume priced units end up in a bankruptcy closure warehouse, in a remain stock after changing standards or such thins.

And it is usual such "almost forgotten" units to get to market in a bargain lot. The seller explained the origin comes from one of such lots, the number is limited, and there are some user comments saying "they are trusty" and "unbelievable... they work!!"

So no reason to pass the chance if you are thinking about maybe invest in the regular price unit.
 
#23 · (Edited)
My OBDLink LX arrived today from Australia. A little less than two weeks to get from halfway around the world to my front door. Not bad!

It arrived with firmware 4.0.0 but I was able to pair it with my phone and then update it to 5.6.19 with no trouble at all (firmware 4.3.2 or higher is required to write maps in TuneECU). As @andymath138 reported, the OBDLink app recognized the adapter's serial number and everything appears as normal. Haven't had a chance to do much other than a quick scan for error codes and confirm the dashboard gauges were displaying data, but those quick checks all came back as expected. Looks like the real deal, folks.

Thanks to @andymath138 and the others in this thread for pointing the way.
 
#34 ·
Does seem genuine and have re flashed a map with mine now , had no problems , it seemed pretty quick doing it , even checked on bike to see if a new map had been loaded and had . Will try it again soon as I accidently re enabled O2 sensers but on plus side bikes running better "added 10% on fuel trims at low throttle 3% on high throttle
 
#25 ·
£19.95 is $25.85. The adapter referenced in this thread costs $18.53.

There's a difference between "works with TuneECU" and supports full functionality with TuneECU. Many of the cheap OBD adapters are sufficient for checking/clearing trouble codes, etc. Flashing the ECU typically requires one of the more full-featured adapters. The one we're talking about here is by far the least expensive adapter that's been shown to be fully TuneECU compatible, including the ability to write maps.

I get that not everyone gives a rip about writing maps; in that case any of the cheaper adapters is fine. Back when better, faster, cheaper was a thing we used to joke that you can pick any two. The $18.53 adapter we're going on about here is remarkable in that you really do get all three.
 
#33 ·
As far as I am aware the VGate Linker MC isn't recommended by Tune ecu I agree some are having success some with this though . Re flashing ECU worries me a little so would rather use this genuine OBDLX than risk bricking my ECU with the VGate Linker MC but to be honest this OBDLX is about same price as the VGate
 
#27 ·
Seems I'm not making myself clear. The adapter we're discussing has been shown to be a genuine OBDLink LX. And it costs $18.53.

The OBDLink stuff is indeed normally expensive. Which is why this is remarkable, and why I'm bothering to post this stuff. For folks that don't already have an adapter, this is an opportunity to get the TuneECU gold standard adapter for less than $20 and with no risk.
 
#30 ·
OK, not sure what your point is. Yes, shipping to the US is pricey. Even so, the total cost is about 40% of an OBDLink LX sourced from anywhere else.

I found the info in this thread helpful and tried to supplement it based on the assumption that others would find it helpful, too. Seems that was a bad assumption. Lesson learned, thanks.
 
#39 ·
I received it today. Paid €40 including shipping. That's 50% discount.

It was perfectly recognized by OBDLink software, updated firmware with no troubles, and works with TuneECU faster than my previous VLinker MC+.

It lacks the external green cover, but that's no issue.

Unfortunately it seems the seller does not have more available units so... no more deal.