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‘22 vs. ‘23 Scrambler 1200 XC…any differences? *** UPDATE: Bought one!

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After flirting with the idea of a Speed Twin for my return to the Triumph Family, I’ve decided to instead go with a Scrambler 1200 XC for a variety of reasons. Looking at the 2022 red/black Gold Line or the ‘23 Carnival Red (I like the ‘23 Khaki, but the matte green color is nearly identical to my other bike). I prefer the ‘22, but have had no luck finding one in my Pacific NW region, so it would require the hassle of shipping. Not a fan of the aesthetic and design changes for the 2024 model.

I’ve watched endless YT videos, and I’ve done as much research as I can online and in this forum, and it appears as though that, other than colors, there is little to no difference (engine, suspension, tech, etc.) between the 2022 and 2023 model years. So just to confirm, is that correct?
 
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I believe your "no changes" assumption is correct because I recently read the article below about the 2024 MY changes, which are more significant, such as different suspension and other changes that seem to make it more road-ish.

At 6'3" I'm glad to have picked up an XC while it was still taller.

 
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Thanks. Yes, I agree, that ‘24 light overhaul of the XC (to X) suggested even further that the preceding two years must’ve been pretty static.
 
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Well, I ended up adding a Scrambler.:cool:

I bought a new 2023 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. I toyed with the idea of the XE, but the add'l suspension travel of the XE wasn't necessary for type of light off-road riding I plan to do, nor were the wider bars. The slightly lower seat height was also a better fit for me, even at 6'1" / 34" inseam, and more confidence-inspiring, especially for someone who hasn't ridden off-pavement for thirty-plus years. And, hey, I dig the '23 Carnival Red, too:

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(In the dealer's garage, waiting to be loaded up for free delivery...no way I'm riding this home in 35-degree Winter weather with the fair-weather gear I have in my closet.)

I haven't been around this forum much for a few years, after selling my Thunderbird 1600 back in 2017, so am looking forward to both riding the bike come Spring and talking about it here for years to come.
 
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FYI - Mine likes the key fob to be in my left pant pocket rather than the right, which is more susceptible to out of range warnings. Enjoy
 
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Thanks -- great tip! I'll make the change as I'm used to the fob being in the right pocket. Followup question: The bike's home now and I've noticed that there's a fair amount of forward free-play in the clutch...not inward / adjustable free-play, but forward/outward. It doesn't feel like it's unintentionally loose, per se, but that's not what I'm used to...is that standard/deliberate in the Scrambler (to help minimize damage to the lever if it falls, or...?), or do I have an issue?

Super congrats on the 23’ Scrammy, looking good!….FTG
Thanks, appreciate that -- I'm pretty fond of it. I've wanted a Bonneville for as long as I can remember, and this particular member of that family really flips all my switches.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Beautiful Scrammy! I'm no help on your clutch question since I've only owned my brand new Scrammy XE one week now. See owners manual for guidance on adjustment.
 
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Quick question, if anyone knows: Triumph has long touted the hand pinstriping on (some of) their tanks, and my 2012 Thunderbird 1600 had them (with the pinstriper's initials painted on the tanks rear attachment). Does the Scrambler 1200 have this neat little feature or are they decal strickers beneath the clear coat? You can see from the above pic of my bike there are two white lines that border the black...as near as I can tell from a quick glance they're decals, but I'd be pleased to hear that I'm wrong.
 
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^^^^^ Thanks, but that’s referencing an adjustment from the clutch handle (at rest) to the grip, adjusting the inward movement. Most bikes I own and have owned have that. My hands are larger so I’ve rarely had to use that adjustment.

My issue, however, is the opposite of that...as explained, it’s a forward/outward free play, the ability to push the lever outward an inch or more away from the grip when the lever is at rest, as if toward the headlight or front tire. I’ve never seen that on a bike. My salesperson talked to the shop and came back with some reasoning that suggested it’s as intended, but I’m still skeptical and plan to discuss it at my 600-mile service in April (?…if weather permits).
 
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I did consider that, but two things puzzled me: One, my hands are on the larger side so the lever is now at about the maximum typical reach, so an add'l inch-plus forward play seems oddly extreme, and, two, once the lever is set into place by the span adjuster then should there really be that kind of generous, loose-ish forward freeplay?

I don't know, you could be right, it may be nothing. I certainly hope so, and appreciate the feedback.I don't plan on leaving the 600-mile break-in service without definitive assurance that it's a not an issue of concern, with a mgr.'s note as such on the receipt, just in case it develops later on into a warranty claim.
 
#14 ·
Hi there
Late to the party on this
I just bought a XC 1200 in carnival red (happy face) delivery this coming week
Reading about your forward clutch lever play, I'm presuming it is the same as my KTM 790 Adv R where pushing the lever forward offloads the cam that you turn to position the lever for personal preference ie closer in for a tighter feel or further forward etc
Ive had a few bikes since 2018 now and this doesn't resonate with me as a problem more a feature
Hope this helps
Thanks
 
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Appreciate that, but that doesn't seem to be the case...I tried resetting the reach adjustment at several points, as that was my first thought as well, but the forward play remains the same. It's something I'll bring up with the dealership when I take it in for its 600-mile service. Until then, I've been assured (by the salesperson who spoke to the service dept.) that that's the way it's supposed to be -- extra slack as manufacturer standard as the clutch cable is progressively tightened in subsequent services, I was I was told...seems odd to me, as it doesn't appear to be related to the cable, but... -- so I'm just going to enjoy those first 600 miles and worry about the slack when I take it in. But it'll be a very focused conversation I'll have with them.
 
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I'll be sure to report back in this thread what I learn from them. Given the ill weather around here, might be another month or two, unfortuanately, but I sure hope it'll be sooner rather than later.
 
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Since this thread has become a bit of a sporadic diary for my experiences with my new Scrambler 1200 XC, I'll go ahead and add a couple new items to it to keep it currrent for other interested prospective buyers.

First, this pic was in another thread devoted solely to this SW-Motech screen. After riding with it now for a hundred miles or so, I'd recommend it...low enough and different enough to look both sporty and rugged, and it works well to take pressure of the chest and protect the TFT.
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The second recent event is that I finally rode two-up on the bike, with my 25-year-old daughter of 125'ish pounds. The experience was a good one, perhaps even more so than on other bikes I've ridden with her on, which I account primarily to the flat seat. Not greater comfort -- though it was fine -- but rather since she wasn't on a slightly higher perch (as on most bikes with their pillion seats raised a couple inches), the center of gravity/mass was level. It wasn't a dramatic difference, but it was something I noticed periodically. I did have to warn her about the pipes, though, given their high location beside her leg and the heat-making cat conv now moved (2022+, IIRC) behind the rear shield. She didn't have an issue with it, so perhaps the tales of heat issues with the Scrambler are a bit overblown.
 
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