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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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x pipe meerkat vs cone engineering

I have searched and not found a comparison of the meerkat x pipe vs cone engineering. Looking to put one of them on a street twin. Hoping some one can provide dyno charts, 1/4 mile times and or if there were any issues with quality of build. From what i have read on this forum meerkat is the only one with torque and HP gains but could not find anything on cone engineering which means cone is new making these or no one has had any issues with them.

Next anyone with LOTS of miles on the meerkat? curious how it has held up since it does not have the ability to be bolted to the frame?
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I have searched and not found a comparison of the meerkat x pipe vs cone engineering. Looking to put one of them on a street twin. Hoping some one can provide dyno charts, 1/4 mile times and or if there were any issues with quality of build. From what i have read on this forum meerkat is the only one with torque and HP gains but could not find anything on cone engineering which means cone is new making these or no one has had any issues with them.

Next anyone with LOTS of miles on the meerkat? curious how it has held up since it does not have the ability to be bolted to the frame?
Jsobell may have some comparison dynos with those two.

I've run the Meerkat on my Thruxton R for just about a year and half. I've had it on for 19 runs down the drag strip and on the street with no issues. I will be using the Meerkat on the bike at Bonneville next month.

I did do a dyno comparison between the Meerkat and Free Spirit. I found I got about 2.5 more horsepower with the Meerkat over the Free Spirit over the entire RPM range.

I also did a comparison at the drag strip between those two, 4 runs with Free Spirit and 3 runs with Meerkat with no other changes.

The Free Spirit average was 12.475 @ 107.81 mph, the Meerkat was 12.270 @ 110.65 mph.

I'm very satisfied with the Meerkat in terms of performance, build quality, and sound quality .

Here is a recent quarter mile run, and you can hear the sound from rider's standpoint.


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Good information. I much prefer 1/4 mile time comparisons over dyno results. I really like the sound of your bike in the video; is that the meerkat with stock mufflers?
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Good information. I much prefer 1/4 mile time comparisons over dyno results. I really like the sound of your bike in the video; is that the meerkat with stock mufflers?
These mufflers are Vance & Hines without db killers, most of the sound came from the Meerkat x pipe.

Just today Peter Meerkat and I were discussing making a set of Meerkat megaphone mufflers for me to run at Bonneville in a few weeks.

I will post one of these runs sometime in late August so you can see and hear these babies.

Due to the lateness on getting these Meerkats I probably won't get them on the dyno until September.
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Cannot comment on a comparison but I have the Meerkat xpipe on my Street Cup and super happy with the fit and finish, and the freeing up of the motor. Have retained the stock cans as I like the look and sound but have K&N filter and Polaris plenum. Love the angry growl.
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Maybe I'm seeing different x-pipes from Meekrat than what you guys are using but the ones I see don't have the mounting points like the original Cat and it would put all the weight of the x-pipe on the header pipes and the mufflers that seems like a formula for failure down the road of possibly stress cracks or even breaking at the header. This is what I have used on both my Streetwin and my T120 both bikes have over 14,000 miles on them.
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The reason for the mounting points on the stock cat is its so heavy and would put a lot of stress on the exhaust, the Meerkat weights bugger all and no need for mounting points to be welded on, the header pipes and mufflers are mounted pretty good and there be no stress on their mounting points from the Meerkat at all, I have been running my Thruxton for 15 months now with my Meerkat and ride every where even on rought roads and dirt roads and have had no problems at all, its still mounted solid from day one, have done 15k or more so far.
As well with the Meerkat the workmanship and the welds are all top quality looking at the pics of the other brands they don't even come close to the workmanship of the Meerkat and the Meerkat is all polished up and its ashame its hidden under the bike it looks so good, Peter at Meerkat is a true tradesman, I think you would have more problems with other decats compared to the workmanship of Meerkat.

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I'm not sure we can even get Meerkat here in North America without insane shipping from Australia- anyone know?

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I'm not sure we can even get Meerkat here in North America without insane shipping from Australia- anyone know?
That's the rub. The Tec X-pipe fits fine and works well, and was a bit of a bargain at $179 with shipping included. It sure isn't the work of art that the Meercat is. I do like that the Tec allows retention of the guard plate, avoiding a large empty space where the cat was. I suggest careful study of how that plate is mounted before removing it.
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I'm not sure we can even get Meerkat here in North America without insane shipping from Australia- anyone know?
$340.00 AUD (aprox $235 USD) in your hands in 5 working days...

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