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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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New Street Twin 500 miles in & my thoughts

As heading say, I've just had my 1st service today at Youlles Triumph of Manchester, so likes / dislikes so far.......
LIKES
Looks dept, can't fault it. Always gets plenty of attention from cars & other bikes, with lots of compliments or the thumb up.
Functionality, does what it's supposed to looks cool whilst doing it, & I can flat foot it too. (a massive plus from my Tiger 1050 sport)
Economy, not dropped below 70 MPG yet & this is checked from tank to tank fills, & the computer seem to be fairly accurate also.
Suspension, it's on the firmer side of comfortable if that make sense, & it's on the softer setting.

Brakes, Brembos "Nuff said"

Tyres, seem ok was concerned about the phantoms after reading various post here & other forums.Rode home today from the dealer in a very heavy downpour, with no issues so time will tell here really.

DISLIKES
1/ Seat comfort (2 hrs max for me) this will be addressed asap
Seat material looks great, but in reality it's a pain to keep clean, it attracts every particle known to man
& hangs on to it like 2 pieces of velcro would stick together.........

2/ Throttle, response is not as instant as I would like, dealer tells me this is quite
normal & as this is my 1st
ride by wire who am I to argue. They checked it out at the service today & confirm all is well.

3/ Fuel cap (or rather the size of the filling aperture), It is a complete pain to fill due to it being a perfect fit
for every pump I've used so far. I have found that to fill the tank completely you need to insert the
pump every so slightly into the tank to fill to full. If I insert it to far constant pump clicking ensues,
splash 'n' dash is a thing of the past here.......
4/ Tank could be another half gallon more IMHO, don't think it would spoil the aesthetics to much my self.

So that's my thoughts 500 in, still loving it, but it's not perfect, but then what is.....
Steve
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As heading say, I've just had my 1st service today at Youlles Triumph of Manchester, so likes / dislikes so far.......
LIKES
Looks dept, can't fault it. Always gets plenty of attention from cars & other bikes, with lots of compliments or the thumb up.
Functionality, does what it's supposed to looks cool whilst doing it, & I can flat foot it too. (a massive plus from my Tiger 1050 sport)
Economy, not dropped below 70 MPG yet & this is checked from tank to tank fills, & the computer seem to be fairly accurate also.
Suspension, it's on the firmer side of comfortable if that make sense, & it's on the softer setting.

Brakes, Brembos "Nuff said"

Tyres, seem ok was concerned about the phantoms after reading various post here & other forums.Rode home today from the dealer in a very heavy downpour, with no issues so time will tell here really.

DISLIKES
1/ Seat comfort (2 hrs max for me) this will be addressed asap
Seat material looks great, but in reality it's a pain to keep clean, it attracts every particle known to man
& hangs on to it like 2 pieces of velcro would stick together.........

2/ Throttle, response is not as instant as I would like, dealer tells me this is quite
normal & as this is my 1st
ride by wire who am I to argue. They checked it out at the service today & confirm all is well.

3/ Fuel cap (or rather the size of the filling aperture), It is a complete pain to fill due to it being a perfect fit
for every pump I've used so far. I have found that to fill the tank completely you need to insert the
pump every so slightly into the tank to fill to full. If I insert it to far constant pump clicking ensues,
splash 'n' dash is a thing of the past here.......
4/ Tank could be another half gallon more IMHO, don't think it would spoil the aesthetics to much my self.

So that's my thoughts 500 in, still loving it, but it's not perfect, but then what is.....
Steve
As someone who only has 420 miles on their ST, I agree with most of what you said. The tires are not that great. I just donít feel very confident around corners. Iím looking forward to swapping them out for the Continental Road Attack 3 tires. Suspension for me is way too soft and Iím only 170lbs. I actually just ordered some fox rear shocks for mine.
Looking forward to riding it more and getting to really know the bike. Thanks for your review.
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Yep that's a Street Twin alright. Just ride it you'll soon fall in love.
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Brakes, Brembos "Nuff said"
Glad you like the bike, but I find the branding stuff funny. My Thruxton has no name brakes and they work fine. Had many different Japanese mfg'd brakes. They were all great too. Had Brembos back when I rode Ducs. They were fine aside from the fluid getting dirty awfully quick. Didn't find anything about them that made me want to throw a party though.
These days with ABS, if they break traction in the least, the ABS will kick in immediately. And that's more about the grip of the tire, than the strength of the brakes anyway. And then there's the brake pads made by someone else entirely, bringing on the friction.
I had an Ohlins on a Duc once too. It's the only shock I've ever owned that's blown a seal and spit oil all over and had to be sent back to be rebuilt after a few thousand miles.
For better or worse, it's a regular source of amusement for me to see the way things get passed around at the speed of the internet and become the gospel.
I know mfgs must love being able to upcharge large for all these fashionable parts though.
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Glad you like the bike, but I find the branding stuff funny. My Thruxton has no name brakes and they work fine. Had many different Japanese mfg'd brakes. They were all great too. Had Brembos back when I rode Ducs. They were fine aside from the fluid getting dirty awfully quick. Didn't find anything about them that made me want to throw a party though.
These days with ABS, if they break traction in the least, the ABS will kick in immediately. And that's more about the grip of the tire, than the strength of the brakes anyway. And then there's the brake pads made by someone else entirely, bringing on the friction.
I had an Ohlins on a Duc once too. It's the only shock I've ever owned that's blown a seal and spit oil all over and had to be sent back to be rebuilt after a few thousand miles.
For better or worse, it's a regular source of amusement for me to see the way things get passed around at the speed of the internet and become the gospel.
I know mfgs must love being able to upcharge large for all these fashionable parts though.
My thoughts exactly when I saw the Brembo part. The Brembo on my ‘18 Tiger 800 are only Brembo by name. I’m very disappointed. If it were to go by “brand” because there are good setups regardless the name, then I would say holy **** Nissin, because my Street Triple R is a dream. The Tokico on my KAWA are great too. But I won’t trust any name without testing them, and the Brembo on the 2018 Street Triple RS I test rode are out of this world.
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I also love the Nissin on my ST3R. Can’t imagine needing more on a street bike
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I also love the Nissin on my ST3R. Canít imagine needing more on a street bike
Totally agree, I know that sometimes people need that Brembo/Olins etc etc fix but all my Triumphs (Hinckleys) have has factory units and I never had anything but the best service, feel and function out of them, but then I don't think I'm Rossi.
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Brakes are a very hit n miss thing I've found over the years. My previous bike Tiger 1050 sport ran with Nissin's, Front was really good & thank the lord for that. Rear was a complete disaster, very wooden feel to it with virtually no stopping power, strange is'nt it.
I've rode other Nissin brakes where both have been perfect for me.
I have found over the years though that Brembo have always fitted the bill for me, others will have other views of course, each to their own.
If we all liked the same thing, then we'd all be riding the same bike, & that's a weird thought.............
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Suspension, it's on the firmer side of comfortable if that make sense, & it's on the softer setting.
I've had my Street Scrambler for over 1,000 miles now and agree with the "firmer" comment.

The preload doesn't change the "softness" as such but simply changes the amount of load you have to apply to the spring before it will start moving. This is predominantly to maintain the ride height with heavier loads.

One change I have made to my bike that I love are the Fox shocks. I know I shouldn't have to buy new shocks for a new bike, but that what we do. With them having progressively would springs the initial compression is softer and takes out the jarring of the stock shocks. The compression damping is adjustable too but I've not played with that too much as for now I'm just enjoying the ride.


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2/ Throttle, response is not as instant as I would like, dealer tells me this is quite
normal & as this is my 1st
ride by wire who am I to argue. They checked it out at the service today & confirm all is well.
For me this is a plus rather than a minus. On my other bike the throttle response is very immediate and after a time my neck and upper body can't take it any more. The slightly more relaxed response of the throttle actually makes it easier for me to ride all day as it's all, well, relaxed.

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4/ Tank could be another half gallon more IMHO, don't think it would spoil the aesthetics to much my self.
I'll agree with that. The extra half (imperial) gallon would be nice. The T100 tank is just over half a gallon larger and apparently will fit but when I started to look at the parts prices I decided that stopping more often wasn't that bad. And as you point out earlier, 70mpg certainly helps in that regard.

My old BMW has a 24l tank whereas the one on the SS is 14.5l. However the SS does almost twice the mpg of the old BMW so the range is better.
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Brakes are a very hit n miss thing I've found over the years. My previous bike Tiger 1050 sport ran with Nissin's, Front was really good & thank the lord for that. Rear was a complete disaster, very wooden feel to it with virtually no stopping power, strange is'nt it.
I've rode other Nissin brakes where both have been perfect for me.
I have found over the years though that Brembo have always fitted the bill for me, others will have other views of course, each to their own.
If we all liked the same thing, then we'd all be riding the same bike, & that's a weird thought.............
Steve
I think weak rear brakes were made intentionally. Prior to ABS, rear brakes were more of a liability than a benefit on sportier bikes. When you had to stop hard, there was little if any weight on the rear tire. Consequently, if there was much bite at all to the brake, it would lock up and fishtail pretty much uncontrollably. ABS prevents that kinda thing these days, but some mfgs may not have upgraded their rear binders accordingly. Granted, any motorcycle with even a pretense of off roading does need a good rear brake and the ability to turn off ABS to it on the fly.
As I recall, both my Ducs had Brembos at both ends and you had to stand on the rear brake lever to get it to do anything.
Used to be aftermarket suppliers would build to a spec, so if that's how Duc wanted it, that's how they got it. Seems with these newer caliper like M30, M50 etc, they are providing the calipers and the mfgs are having to design them on.
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