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post #41 of 48 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 08:30 PM
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I did notice today just how inconsiderate the car drivers have become.
At least three times today the car driver looks right at me and then decides to pull out.
Me first, you never, I'm bigger and dumber so here I come.

I don't mind them pulling out as long as they step on the gas but nope.
Let's poke along and poke along some more until I finally get an opening and can blast pass these nitwits.
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I agree that you almost always hear the biker suggest that the car was at fault, or the pavement, or the gravel, etc. It's never the biker's fault. I do think there are accidents that are freak, where there really is no fault (such as a deer running out and hitting you), but many accidents can be analyzed and people can learn from them. When two vehicles are involved, the old adage "it takes two to tango" applies.

Example: One of the most common car-motorcycle accidents involves a car turning left in front of a bike going the other way at an intersection.

While the car is legally at fault in that case, the biker should be aware that this is a common occurrence and work to avoid it. Having the right of way is meaningless when you are dead, so yield it. Go slow through intersections where there are cars waiting to turn left. Put yourself in a position to react. Don't blow through a yellow light in heavy traffic.

Many times cars don't see us, but we know that. So the fault can lie with he driver, but if the biker was more proactive he/she may have avoided an accident.

It is absolutely insane for a biker to participate in road rage. Just take a deep breath and say "****ing cagers" to yourself. Then, go about your business.

Many people warn me, after I tell them that I commute on a motorcycle, that they don't worry about me, but the car drivers. I tell them statistics don't support their assertion.

More than 50% of the accidents that motorcyclists have don't even involve a car. Then, a good portion of the remainder involve bikes slamming into the backs of cars.

Good training, temperament, and judgement make a motorcyclist safe. If you can't handle your road rage, you should consider not riding a motorcycle.
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post #43 of 48 (permalink) Old 08-11-2019, 06:33 PM
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Todays motorist have to many distractions, mobil, cell phones, loud music in sound proof cars, blind spots etc etc to many thing that take their mind off of what they are doing, how many time have motorcyclest minding their own business and been forced out of their lane by someone changing lanes while talking on their phones or not even looking, then their is the drivers who think they own the roads and don't give a rats about anyone else, or the ones who are just playing games, tail gating at a unsafe distant, the list can go on and on, its a dangerous world out there and as motorcyclest we have to be fully a where as to what is happening around us, we must have our eyes open a head of us and around us at all times, it only takes a split second.

A mate of mine was riding his old Bonnie one day minding his own business and in front of him on a slight slop a car came over the top on his side of the road right in front of him there was no sign of the driver and my mate had nowhere to go, the car ran straight over him head on hit the curve and wiped out a bus shelter, where was the driver, he had spark plugs rolling around the passenger floor and decided to lean over and to grab them, a split second decision and my poor mate chopped it, 4 months in hospital, and years of addicted to pain tablets, his bike was a right off and he was angy with the world after that, it changed his whole life all because of that split second of stupity from someone not thinking and he still suffers from it and this happen 20 years ago, insane.

When on the road pay attention and be aware what is happening around you at all times.

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I was riding earlier this summer in an area I didn't know and screwed up and nearly ran through a four-way stop. I was looking too far ahead looking for a gas station coming into town, and missed the stop sign. So I'm barreling towards it not slowing, and there's a car sitting there stopped on the cross street. She sees me coming full speed not slowing, and ... pulls out in front of me. I piled on the brakes and stopped in time, saving her a dented car and me some injury. But what really struck me is that as she slowly drove past my front wheel she had her head turned fully at me, staring at me. Like "it was my turn". I'm sure if she had killed me she would have realized she screwed up and felt bad, I'm sure she wasn't evil or anything. She would have known in retrospect she should have just let me go even though I was obviously in the wrong. No harm, no foul. But in the moment she was willing to let the accident happen because it was her turn.

Here's another one from our local paper last week. Motorcycle makes illegal and ill-advised pass, and car decides to "teach him a lesson".

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A La Crosse man was charged Tuesday with hitting a motorcycle with his vehicle last month.

Matthew M. Sallander, 37, faces up to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine after he was charged with second-degree recklessly endangering safety in La Crosse County Circuit Court.

According to the criminal complaint, Sallander was driving his blue 2002 Jeep Liberty up Bliss Road in La Crosse on July 10 when a motorcycle driven by Nicholas McCollough came up behind him and began passing him on the left in a no-passing zone.

Sallander told police he deliberately swerved left; however, he didnít intend to hit McCollough, only scare him. His vehicle hit the motorcycle, causing it to fall and skid about 10 to 20 feet, according to the report.

McCollough told police he was driving at about 25 to 30 mph when he passed Sallander and said it was a "dumb decision" to pass in the no-passing zone.

Sallander also was cited for operating left of center, and McCollough was cited for reckless driving, operating a motor vehicle without a motorcycle license and operating a motor vehicle without insurance, according to the report.

Sallander is free on a $1,000 signature bond.
Sallander feels bad, I'm sure he's a good person. But in the moment he felt wronged, didn't think, and nearly killed someone.


Really has me thinking. What is it with us (because we all have the same impulse, you know it) that we feel so wronged when someone does something dangerous or illegal around us, by mistake or intentionally. Why does that anger us so? Hell, why do we hate to be passed legally so much? Like it is a personal insult.

Oh, well, I don't have an answer or even a good theory. All I know is when our frontal brains are engaged about half us of make good decisions about half the time. But when it's not engaged and we respond with just reptilian reflex, Christ we can be stupid.
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They can pass me all the way, it clears the road of cops and deer.
By all means, be my guest!
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I did notice today just how inconsiderate the car drivers have become.
At least three times today the car driver looks right at me and then decides to pull out.
Me first, you never, I'm bigger and dumber so here I come.

I don't mind them pulling out as long as they step on the gas but nope.
Let's poke along and poke along some more until I finally get an opening and can blast pass these nitwits.
I would wager that if you asked the driver they would say they did not see you. Even though thei looked in your direction.

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post #47 of 48 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 05:39 PM
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That's possible but it's kind of hard to miss someone sitting bolt upright on a 955 Tiger barreling down on you or Sprint headlights aimed right at your head at dusk.
Who knows what these people think.
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I have found that just getting away from the wolf packs of cars going the same speed is the safest bet, I always run about 10 mph faster than the flow of traffic and always seem to have a huge gap between me and all the cars on the interstate.
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