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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-02-2019, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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Question T120 or Speed Twin?

Test rode both as potential replacements for my Ducati Multistrada 1200 ST; looking for a bike with a lower seat height. I preferred the feel of the Speed Twin, which seemed a bit more lively and agile. I also like the lighter weight, tubeless tires, TPMS availability, and additional ride mode as compared to the T120. On the other hand, the T120 looks even better to my eyes, and offers a center stand and factory bag options which are unavailable on the Speed Twin. The power differential between the two did not strike me as significant, and it was difficult for me to tell on my relatively brief test rides if the T120's riding position is roomier - I'm 5'9" tall, with a 30 inch inseam.

For those of you who have compared both, how did you decide between the two? Any speculation around a near-future model year upgrade to the T120 which might result in a lighter weight, availability of TPMS, tubeless tires, or other Speed Twin benefits?
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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-02-2019, 12:21 PM
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They are both fantastic bikes. I test rode a ST a couple months after buying a used 2017 T120. For my taste, Iíd stay with the T120. It has a more comfortable seating position, and I think it would be more tolerable on longer rides.

As for agility, thereís no doubt that you can flick the ST around like itís nobodyís business. But I just put new tires in my T120 and I canít get over how nimble it feels now.

Anyway, my 2 cents. You wonít go wrong either way.




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You've got to go with what feels best to you.
I personally would go with the twin because I like the slightly more aggressive look of it.
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T120 or Speed Twin?

The speed twin also has access to a lot more rubber. I like the more interpretative look of it too. Though I like the look of the T120 a lot too. At least for me the T120 needs to keep with period looking accessories, which was a disadvantage as Iím not confident in the Triumph bags. You are coming to this at an okay time, as there are finally some third party solutions trickling out on the Speed Twin. Hepco Becker have luggage, though itís pricy.



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Buy whichever one moves you most......they are both excellent rides. Depends on your budget but you can most likely find a gently used T120 for a good price if you shop around and don't mind a little travel, ST's are fairly new yet so probably not much on the resale market yet. I've not had the pleasure to ride the ST yet but I do own a T120 and if you are looking for a jack of all trades master of none bike then it fits the bill. It will do everything competently but nothing spectacularly, which for me is perfect. And you never get tired of looking at it either...................
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i like the look of the t120 a lot
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Own a Speed, never rode a T120.

The Speed is great for around town and some highway riding. Itís not as comfortable as my Street Twin was in terms of seating, and Iím guessing the T120 would have the edge here as well.

Speed has a lively engine. Before I changed sprockets I had some trouble keeping the front wheel on the ground in 1st/2nd/3rd when launching the bike. I donít think youíll get that with the T120, but the T120 looks more pillion friendly.

Speed wins on weight and power, possibly the fastest Modern Classic in the lineup.

Looks are completely subjective, so thatís a tossup. For my $$ I prefer the look/potential of the Speed. A few inexpensive mods and your over 100hp (theoretically).

If I rode 2up all the time I would have considered the T120. Iím hoping better seating options will pop up for the Speed in the future.
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If the Speed Twin was available in 16 when I bought my T 120, I might have gone that way. I like it a lot. And love the 30 lb lighter that it is.

Now, on the T 120, the d-cat made a significant improvement in the feel of power. I went up 1 tooth on the rear sprocket and that made her more fun on the country roads I like to ride.

The tires! Once you upgrade to a legit tire ( I went with Avon Storm 3-d), Madonne what an improvement!

And I keep the old school look of the T 120 I enjoy.
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Thanks, all. I plan to return to the dealer to ride the T120 by itself; I think it suffered slightly in a back-to-back comparison with the Speed Twin. I also plan to inquire into the possibility of converting the wheels to accept tubeless tires. While I have never yet had a flat, my understanding is that a flat on a tire with tube can be much harder to cope with, both dynamically while riding and simply to repair even temporarily while on the road, than a tubeless tire - any thoughts on that aspect of the T120 experience? The spoked wheels do look nice, though.
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post #10 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-03-2019, 10:15 AM
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You're not somehow getting a lesser bike if you choose the T120 over the Speed Twin, just one that's somewhat different in appearance and philosophy. You still get that marvelous 1200cc motor, and the same precise six speed gearbox. In the end, people buy the bike they like the looks of, hoping that it's adequate to their needs and not too hard to live with. It's not an objective decision.

Looked really hard at the Speed Twin, with the thought of possibly trading into one. For me, the T120 turned out to be the right choice. Yes, it's heavier, has less power, and may not handle quite as well. But, the T120 has plenty of power, handles great in the riding I do, and (IMHO) looks great. Comfort is really good because the seating position is just about perfect. The cruise control, center stand, and low grab bar are nice to have, too. These can't be fitted to the new Speedie.

I've never had a flat, and have never had a problem with tubes. For me, that's the bottom line in the tubes v. tubeless debate.
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