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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 05-20-2019, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
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I presently own a T-100 water cooled. The local dealer has a beautiful 2013 air cooled T-100. I really like this motorcycle. To the members who went from air to water cooled is the newer motorcycle that much better, in your opinion why? Money wise a trade wouldn’t be good financially, not to worried about this. All opinions are welcome. The bike used mostly on weekends, most rides 100 miles or so. Thanks in advance, Dave.
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The 2013 is used? Why do you like the older bike vs yours, at least cosmetically or appearance?
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I presently own a T-100 water cooled. The local dealer has a beautiful 2013 air cooled T-100. I really like this motorcycle. To the members who went from air to water cooled is the newer motorcycle that much better, in your opinion why? Money wise a trade wouldn’t be good financially, not to worried about this. All opinions are welcome. The bike used mostly on weekends, most rides 100 miles or so. Thanks in advance, Dave.
IMO... the classic look of the air cooled twins are more appealing.

I like the way the 19" front wheeled air cooled T100s handle better than the 18" front wheeled water cooled twins.

The 270 degree crank of the water cooled twins has a different power delivery and engine braking than the 360 degree crank twins. I favor the classic 360 degree crank in those respects.

The air cooled twins are less complicated electrically, electronically, mechanically, and I don't like the ride-by-wire as much as the "feel" of a throttle cable.

Air is FREE and it don't leak.

Now, if the later model 2013-2015 air cooled T100s didn't have those ugly chromed timing and primary covers they'd be perfect. Those cases should have been brushed. The Hinckley people have fallen in love with CROME... VERY un Triumph.
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I presently own a T-100 water cooled. The local dealer has a beautiful 2013 air cooled T-100. I really like this motorcycle. To the members who went from air to water cooled is the newer motorcycle that much better, in your opinion why? Money wise a trade wouldn’t be good financially, not to worried about this. All opinions are welcome. The bike used mostly on weekends, most rides 100 miles or so. Thanks in advance, Dave.
Did you ride the 2013? If not, I suggest you do. Then I think you’ll know...

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I'm lucky to own a 2001 Bonneville and to have owned a 2016 Street Twin (same engine as the water-cooled T-100). Both neat machines, but my older Bonneville needed a bunch of modifications to make it look and work as well as a stock Street Twin. OTOH, the old air-cooled machines are fun to modify. Hope you can get a test ride on the 2013 before you decide.

Regarding the sub-topic of brushed vs chrome engine cases; I'm firmly in the brushed camp. Replaced the chrome cases on my 2001 Bonneville soon after purchasing. I think two of the best looking modern motorcycle engines are the 2000-2001 Kawasaki W650 and HD XL-883 Sportster; both were finished in brushed and polished aluminium which emphasized the engine's shape. Glad Triumph offers a choice of finishes.

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I went from a 2013 Thruxton AC to the 2016 Thruxton S WC, I still have both bikes and the old Thruxton not getting ridden much these days, the old Thruxton has more thump to the motor with the 360 swing but the new Thruxton has so much torque with the bigger engine, is a lot smoother, feels lighter and out handles the old Thruxton with stock suspension, I spent a lot of money to make the old Thruxton handle better, everything about the new Thruxton is so much better than the old one, I did a lot of miles on the old one but I plan on doing more miles on the new one, its just so much better, as for maintenance I think the new one be the same, but think the valve adjustments are a lot easier on the new one.
When I ride the old Thruxton it just feels so slow and feels heavy compared to the new one and I like the extra gear.

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Now, if the later model 2013-2015 air cooled T100s didn't have those ugly chromed timing and primary covers they'd be perfect. Those cases should have been brushed. The Hinckley people have fallen in love with CROME... VERY un Triumph.
Bahhh, I replaced the brushed stuff with chrome. The brushed stuff is a crud sponge. The chrome covers provide nice contrast against the black engine and are so much easier to keep clean.
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Bahhh, I replaced the brushed stuff with chrome. The brushed stuff is a crud sponge. The chrome covers provide nice contrast against the black engine and are so much easier to keep clean.
The fact is that a chromed engine case holds heat while a brushed engine case radiates heat so there's a technical reason to not chrome engine cases.

I recall the adage we British riders ragged the HD riders with in the 60's... if it don't go chrome it.

If I could trade my chromed covers for brushed I'd do it in a heart beat.. That's why there's 31 flavors.

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Setting aside the fact that a chromed case holds heat while a brushed case radiates heat
That's one more great reason to chrome em. Keep the heat off my shins!
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but don't tell that to a Harley rider
They buy them painted all matt black these days. They still pay HD the same price though for spray paint over plating. HD must love their customers...
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