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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-27-2019, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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Scramber 1200 TC and ABS Warnings

Hello All,

I just got a new Scrambler 1200 XE about a month ago. It's coming up on it's break in service and I've got about 550 miles on it.

In the time that I've owned it, I've gotten the following warnings 3 times while riding it:

OCABS Disabled
OCTC Disabled
Both the TC and ABS warning lights stay on

From my googling, the only thing I can find is a mention of OCABS on a revzilla review which mentions that feature is Optimized Cornering ABS and Optimized Cornering Traction Control, so I"m assuming it has something to do with the IMU lean sensitive features on the bike.

These always come together and they always happen when I am out riding. If I stop and turn the bike off and back on again, they go away. However, today I got the warning 2 times (out of the total 3 times since I've owned the bike). It happened once on my ride. I stopped at a gas station, turned the bike off and back on again, and then they were gone. Then on the way home, they happened again. I got a picture of them this time and will be showing them to my dealer during my break in service.

However, I was wondering if anyone had seen these warnings on the Scramber 1200 yet or if they have seen them on any other bikes.

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First up, take your bike to the dealer. Itís probably nothing and will go away ones the errors are cleared. If itís more than that, it could well be a faulty IMU. Either way, new bike, take it back ASAP.

Only other Triumph with OCABS/OCTC is the Tiger 1200 (and last Explorer). Maybe hop into that forum to see if anyone has experienced something similar.
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First up, take your bike to the dealer. Itís probably nothing and will go away ones the errors are cleared. If itís more than that, it could well be a faulty IMU. Either way, new bike, take it back ASAP.

Only other Triumph with OCABS/OCTC is the Tiger 1200 (and last Explorer). Maybe hop into that forum to see if anyone has experienced something similar.
Yeah I'm planning to have them look into it next weekend during my break in service. Since it seems to clear itself when I turn the bike off, I'm not super confident it will be something that they can just clear the errors for. But I could be wrong.

I searched the site and did a fair bit of googling on the topic and haven't come up with anything else.
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The light going off doesnít mean the error is cleared, it means itís not interfering with anything at that time. The error will still be logged and the light will come again each time it is triggered. Iíd say thereís an excellent chance that once the error is cleared, that will be it. The fact it goes out is actually a good sign that itís not mission critical.
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The light going off doesnít mean the error is cleared, it means itís not interfering with anything at that time. The error will still be logged and the light will come again each time it is triggered. Iíd say thereís an excellent chance that once the error is cleared, that will be it. The fact it goes out is actually a good sign that itís not mission critical.
I see. Thanks for your insight.
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I've had it happen to mine about twice in the first 500km. But I was riding in slush/dirt/snow, the dealer said it sometimes happens when the sensors are dirty. Since it hasn't snowed, I've ridden in dirt/mud and though when offroad I'm in Offroad pro mode (which disabled both), when I put it in road modes, the errors don't reappear. I don't know for sure what fixed it, but it seems to be gone for good now The dealer will indeed be able to see the error log upon the first service.
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I've had it happen to mine about twice in the first 500km. But I was riding in slush/dirt/snow, the dealer said it sometimes happens when the sensors are dirty. Since it hasn't snowed, I've ridden in dirt/mud and though when offroad I'm in Offroad pro mode (which disabled both), when I put it in road modes, the errors don't reappear. I don't know for sure what fixed it, but it seems to be gone for good now The dealer will indeed be able to see the error log upon the first service.
Just had my 500 mile service done yesterday. Part of that was diagnosing this issue. Supposedly they updated all the software. However, they charged me for it and I'm going to have to work on getting that money back. I didn't notice it before I left but when I looked I saw that I got charged for something that should be covered under warranty.

However, there is bad news. On my ride today, the same warning lights came back. So whatever they did, didn't fix the issue. I have a ticket open with Triumph and emails out to the service department but they aren't back in until Tuesday. Not very pleased about this as I'm sure it will eat a pretty significant portion into my summer riding season...
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When it does happen (until it's fixed, which they should under warranty), you can just stop on the side of the road, turn off the engine, and restart, chances are you'll be good for the rest of the ride. Sucks, but at least you'll have ABS.
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Happened to me OCABS light. 1200 XE 800 miles. Live 300 miles from a dealer. But then sounds like dealer didn't solve problem anyway. I've ridden in dirt and bike is fairly dirty, but when it happened I was in unmodified Road mode on street pushing it in the corners some and getting a little lean angle. So maybe when the lean angle sensor is triggered ABS and TC are disabled? Doesn't sound right. Anyway rather than turn bike off I stopped, in neutral, and went into menu and enabled ABS and TC which had been enabled but had become disabled. Lights went out and hasn't happened again. But who knows. Post if you find out anything more. Thanks
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Bit rude to be charged to fix a fault on a new bike that is sure to be covered by warranty and to find they haven't fixed it, myself would be making a full complaint to your dealer big time as well sending a full complaint to Triumph HQ, its one of the reasons we buy new to be covered by warranty, I know my dealer wouldn't charge me to fix a fault when the bike is still covered by warranty and not with only 500 miles on the clock.
The dealers get fully paid for any warranty claims as well labour for fixing the problem.

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