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post #11 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-07-2018, 10:31 AM Thread Starter
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I'm just asking out of curiosity more than anything. Yes, i have considered it but very loosely due to things i dislike such as the bars and the huge front tire. If those were more "normal" i'd be much more interested tho still not "all over it". I haven't ridden one but say on one and those bars make me wonder what planet the designer came from. Problem is, i really want that 1200 engine but nothing they have put it in so far excites me. Build a slightly bigger scale street twin with the 1200 and i'll be camped out at a deler's door. (tho that horrible paint scheme would have to disappear !)
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As the proud and happy owner of the very first Speedmaster 1200 sold in Seattle, I can say that my search for the perfect bike (for me) is done. Bikes I've owned: 80's Honda 500 Ascot, 06 Vulcan 800, 08 FJR, 07 T100, 2014 Honda CB1100DLX. I've already had the Speedy out for many a long day ride, an 8-day tour from Seattle to Glacier Nat'l Park and back, freeway commuting, you name it. I recently had the mid-controls installed, and there is no more scraping the pegs around corners...plus my low back likes it better than forward controls.
I don't do super-slab tours of 800 miles a day, I'm not a foul-weather rider (unless caught out), I absolutely despise the looks of a big windshield on any bike, I don't need locking luggage, I don't ride a pillion. I don't want or need a stereo or GPS display. With my Aerostich suit, Motofizz small tail bag, and a credit card, there's no limits to where or how far I can go (minus heavy off-road / adventure stuff...which is not my thing anyway.) The bike is a dream to handle in all situations too.

Honestly, though? The main reason I bought it (never even test rode it or it's cousin the Bobber) is because of its looks. Not ashamed to say it either. It is flat out the most beautiful motorcycle I've ever owned or ever will own. I'm partial to the 1940's vibe that Triumph so expertly recreated here. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, I'll admit. And yes, if parked near other motorcycles, it looks small. But I like that too. That's a definite advantage for how I like to ride. Oh yeah...I'm not that easy on the throttle either, and I'm averaging 58 mpg since purchase. As you can tell, I can go on and on and on...
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I am very fortunate to own both the new Speedmaster and a T120.

The bikes are similar, but at the same time very different. I am coming off of many years and many miles on big Harley touring bikes. I am no longer touring and have gotten tired of pushing a 900+ bike around. I bought the T120 a year ago and just fell in love with it.
The day I ordered it, I also ordered a Corbin Dual Tour seat. I never get along with stock seats and have put Corbins on all of my bikes including my Vespa. My only complaint with the now with the T120 is the handlebars. They are too low for me and after a while my neck hurts. My SO who has many miles on the back of my Harleys with the throne seat, likes the Corbin and backrest on the T120.

When the Speedmaster was first announced, I immediately put a deposit on one thinking the forward controls (I prefer forward controls) and different bars would make this the ultimate comfort bike for me. When I got it this past Feb., I can't say that I was in love with it. Both seats, the rider and passenger, especially the passenger seat were not great. Replaced both with the upgraded Comfort seats. The rider was OK, not great, but the passenger seat is still a joke. I also bought the passenger backrest. My SO finds the backrest to be too low to be of any comfort for her. Bottom line there, she will not ride with me on the Speedmaster and prefers the T120.

I was not crazy about the beach bars. I always felt that above 50 mph the wind wanted to push me off the bike. The bars came back at too much of an angle and a weird wrist position. I have since changed those out to an LSL Flat Track bar with ROX 2" risers. This combo feels great to me and feels very similar to my old 2016 Road King. Plus, with the new bars, the Comfort seat does not feel as bad to me. I guess the seating position angle has changed just enough to make it comfortable. I'm still going to get a Corbin when they become available though. Hopefully, the passenger seat will accommodate one of their backrest and my SO will ride on the bike again.

When I go out to my garage I have a nice choice to make, Speedmaster or T120. 90% of the time now I choose the Speedmaster when solo. We take the T120 when going 2 up. Best of both worlds. Ginger or MaryAnne?

T/L..didn't read....Great bike for me after a few mods.
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I just sold my 2018 Speedmaster. I really wanted to like the bike, but I just couldnít get comfortable on it. I blame the seats, both stock and ďcomfortĒ. Iíll admit , part of the problem is me. Iím rapidly falling apart, and riding any bike is getting more and more difficult. On the plus side, the bike rode well, worked well, no complaints with engine, brakes. Needs a bit more rear suspension, but itís a cruiser. But in the end I decided that the old Speedmaster I have just fit me better, so thatís what I kept.
Sorry to hear this bike did not work out for you. We were on the cutting edge. I sent Corbin an email 2 days ago looking for an update, but they have not responded.

I'm getting mine dialed in nicely now. The handlebars were the biggest thing.
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I absolutely LOVE the new Speedmaster. Itís the 14th bike Iíve owned in 30 years of riding and the best daily rider. Itís not perfect of course (nothing with a cat is...) but a few easy mods and I feel itís as close as any bike can get. Iíll address some of the common concerns Iíve heard based on my experience over the last month/1200 miles:

Stock Seat: Personally I love it, but my iron butt has been cross country on sport bikes in the past. The passenger pillion is a different story, we had to swap it immediately for my GF to be comfortable on the bike. I will probably get the Corbin when it comes out though.

Itís small: It is, and thatís a good thing . Handles great in parking lots and the twisting as long as your prepared for one of the footrests to scrape. Ití handles high speed highway cruising well for a bike itís size too.

Lean angle: Truth is it corners really well. The peg feelers will scrape but there are several ways to fix that; remove the feelers, or cut them down, or get mid sets. The issue is with the feelers, not the lean angle imho.

The bars suck: Yup, they sure do. I replaced mine with Biltwell Chumps. 6Ē rise and stock cables were able to re-route to work.

Itís very easy and inexpensive to de-cat, unlike most other bikes in the category

Tube tires: this bothers me too, but is an issue for a later date.

Power: no one is complaining about the power

Looks: no one is complaining about the looks

I think there arenít a lot in the wild because itís still really new, the ones I see sitting in dealerships seem to be the one with the weird (gold?) striping which might not be to everyoneís tastes. I bought mine because of the HUGE grin on my face after test riding it. When I pulled back into the dealership my GF said she could tell before I turned the bike off that weíd be leaving with it and bid the Diavel weíd rode in on goodbye.

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I absolutely LOVE the new Speedmaster. Itís the 14th bike Iíve owned in 30 years of riding and the best daily rider. Itís not perfect of course (nothing with a cat is...) but a few easy mods and I feel itís as close as any bike can get. Iíll address some of the common concerns Iíve heard based on my experience over the last month/1200 miles:

Stock Seat: Personally I love it, but my iron butt has been cross country on sport bikes in the past. The passenger pillion is a different story, we had to swap it immediately for my GF to be comfortable on the bike. I will probably get the Corbin when it comes out though.

Itís small: It is, and thatís a good thing . Handles great in parking lots and the twisting as long as your prepared for one of the footrests to scrape. Ití handles high speed highway cruising well for a bike itís size too.

Lean angle: Truth is it corners really well. The peg feelers will scrape but there are several ways to fix that; remove the feelers, or cut them down, or get mid sets. The issue is with the feelers, not the lean angle imho.

The bars suck: Yup, they sure do. I replaced mine with Biltwell Chumps. 6Ē rise and stock cables were able to re-route to work.

Itís very easy and inexpensive to de-cat, unlike most other bikes in the category

Tube tires: this bothers me too, but is an issue for a later date.

Power: no one is complaining about the power

Looks: no one is complaining about the looks

I think there arenít a lot in the wild because itís still really new, the ones I see sitting in dealerships seem to be the one with the weird (gold?) striping which might not be to everyoneís tastes. I bought mine because of the HUGE grin on my face after test riding it. When I pulled back into the dealership my GF said she could tell before I turned the bike off that weíd be leaving with it and bid the Diavel weíd rode in on goodbye.

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That is a cool looking retro style bike. Care to share how you mounted the viking bags ?

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That is a cool looking retro style bike. Care to share how you mounted the viking bags ?


Sure! Itís still a little awkward and I need to go back and create one bracket to hold them away from the cradle, but this is how I did it

Mounting Viking Bags on Speedmaster
I removed the covers that cover the area where the frame transitions to rear fender support, 2/side. There you find the 3 bolts per side that hold everything together.
I took a piece of card board and made a template for the bolt hole pattern
Placed the template on the back of the bags, marked, and drilled.
Measured how far out from the bike the bags would have to be mounted and put together spacers
Bought replacement bolts of the correct length/thread pattern
When I bolted on the bags with the three new bolts the bags stood about 1/8th inch away from the cradle when empty.
To stop any rubbing I zip tied 2x6x1/8th inch strip of Kevlar webbing to the cradle to keep anything from being damaged before I have time to fab a standoff.
In the future I want to make prettier spacers, maybe a rear attachment point, and a better stand-off.

I can post some pics tonight of the spacers if it would help.


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Sure! Itís still a little awkward and I need to go back and create one bracket to hold them away from the cradle, but this is how I did it

Mounting Viking Bags on Speedmaster
I removed the covers that cover the area where the frame transitions to rear fender support, 2/side. There you find the 3 bolts per side that hold everything together.
I took a piece of card board and made a template for the bolt hole pattern
Placed the template on the back of the bags, marked, and drilled.
Measured how far out from the bike the bags would have to be mounted and put together spacers
Bought replacement bolts of the correct length/thread pattern
When I bolted on the bags with the three new bolts the bags stood about 1/8th inch away from the cradle when empty.
To stop any rubbing I zip tied 2x6x1/8th inch strip of Kevlar webbing to the cradle to keep anything from being damaged before I have time to fab a standoff.
In the future I want to make prettier spacers, maybe a rear attachment point, and a better stand-off.

I can post some pics tonight of the spacers if it would help.


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Please do. Thanks,
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Please do. Thanks,
Here are the pics of the Viking Bags mounting points. Using three is probably overkill. The forward mount is a little hard to see, look for the 2 washers just under the rear of the seat.

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