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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 08-18-2017, 07:26 AM Thread Starter
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T120 Tyre replacement

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I suppose we are getting some experiences from owners having had to change tyres on their T120 and I would like to know if some recommendations come to mind.

I'm not happy with the Pirelli Phantoms, given that I ride the bike to work, wether it rains or not, and I find them to be pretty bad on wet roads. Also they follow the imperfections of the road pretty easily. And damn are they numerous in Belgium. On the other hand they do look good, they grip well on dry roads and they seem to last pretty long.

My dealer is guiding me towards some Bridgestone BT45 because they are pretty cheap and seem to have a good overall record. But I'm afraid I may put my standards too high, and maybe I should look at the Avon Storm's that Triumph recommend. I do a lot of highway riding and maybe they will hold longer before getting squared ?

Any experience with them ? Any tyres recommended ? (I fondly remember my Michelin PR4 on my previous bikes, and kinda regret they dont make the right size for the T120).

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I can recommend the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2. Available in standard sizes, much better in the wet and no white-lining.
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I'm having trouble finding any place that sells the correct size and type.
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Hi

I suppose we are getting some experiences from owners having had to change tyres on their T120 and I would like to know if some recommendations come to mind.

I'm not happy with the Pirelli Phantoms, given that I ride the bike to work, wether it rains or not, and I find them to be pretty bad on wet roads. Also they follow the imperfections of the road pretty easily. And damn are they numerous in Belgium. On the other hand they do look good, they grip well on dry roads and they seem to last pretty long.

My dealer is guiding me towards some Bridgestone BT45 because they are pretty cheap and seem to have a good overall record. But I'm afraid I may put my standards too high, and maybe I should look at the Avon Storm's that Triumph recommend. I do a lot of highway riding and maybe they will hold longer before getting squared ?

Any experience with them ? Any tyres recommended ? (I fondly remember my Michelin PR4 on my previous bikes, and kinda regret they dont make the right size for the T120).

Thanks
If you're going to run bias ply tires, such as the B-stone BT45's, which have a tendency to wander on grooved/inconsistent surfaces btw, I'd give the Michelin Pilot Activ's a try instead… I have run them for years on my '03 Bonnie…

For quite a while I've wanted to give a set of radials a try and I recently put a set of the B-stone T30 EVO radials on and am really liking them… time will tell what mileage I get out of them… If they last as well as the Pilot Activ's have for me. I'll probably stick with them, as I can get either the B-stone's or Michelin's for around $225/set delivered from an online discounter… and I do my own tire mounting...

The 150/70/17 is easy peasy, size wise… the stock 100/90/18 size that the T120 uses is less common… but a 110/80/18 is available in both of the above lines of tires… Very nearly the exact same net diameter and only very slightly wider… no problem with fitment or handling differences between them.
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Like others, finding alternatives is not easy and unlike other reviewers, I hadn't heard wonderful things about the BT45s but then it was small sample size. I went Pirelli again and must kept reminding myself to use 'rain' setting in the wet... Overall, I haven't found them to be that bad and every Triumph dealer around me (and touring) has them.
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Continental contiroadattack 3 are the best option
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Continental contiroadattack 3 are the best option
Because???

I love tire threads almost as much as oil threads… actually… even a bit more… oil characteristics can be easily identified and quantified… tire characteristics and MOST importantly… what the buyer is looking for in a tire… is much more subjective…

There are any number of tire brands and categories out there… the way you use a tire and how you prioritize the importance (to you) of its' characteristics, grip/handling/longevity/ride comfort wise, may be totally different than what I'm looking for…

In other words… there is NO ONE BEST tire for every bike or every rider…

Also, folks… don't go into "paralysis through analysis" when looking at tires… this isn't a long term relationship you're buying into here… There is no divorce, alimony or child support payments to deal with if the tires you try doesn't hit the mark that you're looking for…

A tire is a disposable/consumable item… do your research, ask for opinions (beyond simply which is "the best") on what tires may fit your desired characteristics (in this case, the OP didn't like the wandering of the OEM tires. I advised, through personal experience that the BT45's that he mentioned are known to suffer the same problem.) and give whatever you select a try… If they work for you… great… If they're not exactly what you were looking for… use them up and try something else… If you do any miles at all… you'll burn through them quickly enough…
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X2 on the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2.
They handle well, look good and offer a little more confidence on dirt/fire roads.

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I can recommend the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2. Available in standard sizes, much better in the wet and no white-lining.

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Thanks for the advice !

I have ordered the Avon, and I will report back about them. But I will definitely keep the Scorpion Trails in mind. They were stock on my previous bike and they were pretty nice.
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I hate buying tires but I sure like new rubber. It will be a while before I need to worry about it though.

I'm the new guy and my bike only has 250 miles, just picked it up Friday.

One of the first things I noticed is the stock Pirelli's love to follow the grooved pavement. Never did care for Pirelli's much, I wonder what Metzler has to offer.
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