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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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I love my 2017 T120 Black but I find that it isn't the long haul bike I was hoping it would be. I rode a Harley for 20 years before going to the T120. I still ride with my Harley buddies and we do a Spring and Fall week long trip every year and ride once a week together the rest of the year. I find myself feeling cramped up on anything over 150 miles. So I'm asking for advice from you who ride the Speedmaster is it a comfortable ride on long hauls do you have to do a lot of modifications for comfort? I was able to do a test ride at a dealer and the short ride felt good ergonomically and it felt pretty light and nimble. Opinions , comments appreciated.
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Love my SM, but it is not a Touring bike. You can make it one with mods though.......Corbin seat, handlebars, floor boards, windshield, etc.

For long rides I'm on my Harley CVO Road Glide.......

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We've only had the Speedmaster for a short time and haven't gone on any extended trips with it but it has been comfortable for my wife and me. I did have to change the seats to a dual saddle Corbin and a put a Dart Fly screen on it but really haven't done much more than that. Is it as comfortable as our previous BMW K1600GTL, well no but I learn to adapt and there are things about the Speedmaster that I like better than the BMW. Just to name a few. I love the weight reduction.....much easier to handle and much more air flow around me.
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Exactly what was your Harley - been riding Harley's since '64 so I can probably compare yours with the SM - aren't many HD models I haven't ridden in my 55 years of riding.....

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I love my 2017 T120 Black but I find that it isn't the long haul bike I was hoping it would be. I rode a Harley for 20 years before going to the T120. I still ride with my Harley buddies and we do a Spring and Fall week long trip every year and ride once a week together the rest of the year. I find myself feeling cramped up on anything over 150 miles. So I'm asking for advice from you who ride the Speedmaster is it a comfortable ride on long hauls do you have to do a lot of modifications for comfort? I was able to do a test ride at a dealer and the short ride felt good ergonomically and it felt pretty light and nimble. Opinions , comments appreciated.

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So I'm asking for advice from you who ride the Bonneville Speedmaster is it a comfortable ride on long hauls do you have to do a lot of modifications for comfort? I was able to do a test ride at a dealer and the short ride felt good ergonomically and it felt pretty light and nimble. Opinions , comments appreciated.
Hi Dave,

I have owned my SM for 4 months and have done two 1100 mile round trips over various mountainous BC highways and a few busy freeways with a 110km speed limit. I have to say that after I added a windshield, I felt safer at higher speeds. The stock handlebars on the SM 2018, 2019 are, in my opinion.. "ok" for short "in town" trips, but if you want to cruise, you need to change them and then one can sit back an enjoy a more upright riding position. I find my wrists are sore after longer trips with the Beach Bars that came with the bike. I am waiting on some buckhorns that will give me a more comfortable ride. Then some highway pegs, and there you go.

The bike has loads of power and very capable to overtake at high speed if needed, but I like to cruise at around 80-90km per hr, so that the wind noise and buffeting is reduced enough to actually hear my GPS or Music. If speed is needed though, there seems to be no end to the power of the "speed"master.

As others have said you might need to change the seat to a more ergonomic one, or get the Air Hawk seat pad for 1/4 the price of a Corbin custom. ( there seems to be some question on the Corbin solo seat as far as rubbing on the SM centre suspension/shock).

The tank is a little small for countries where there are few gas stations from point A to point B. I think you get about 160km safely, before needing a refuel. I carry an extra .5 L fuel canister when needed.

I've added some saddlebags, and removed the pillion cushion and replaced it with the mud guard finisher.

All in all it is a beautiful piece of machinery, and gets compliments daily. People just didn't think they made Triumphs anymore. It's like buying a Ford Mustang after 2005...people always remember the old models that they loved when they were younger.

This is all I have for now as far as my 2 bits regarding the SM on the longer haul trips. I do plan on making a cross Canada trip in July 2020, so will definitely have more to say about the long haul comfort and other issues, but for the moment....it is a very capable cruiser, looks great, sounds great, handles great, and yes power to spare.

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So I'm asking for advice from you who ride the Speedmaster is it a comfortable ride on long hauls do you have to do a lot of modifications for comfort? I was able to do a test ride at a dealer and the short ride felt good ergonomically and it felt pretty light and nimble. Opinions , comments appreciated.
I can echo Ladybonnie's comments practically word for word, but am seeking long haul comfort too, so will add my eandeavours so far. I have nearly 2000 miles on the clock now, but it's been a learning curve.

WARNING: TMI in parts (literally)

I started with the stock seat on a test drive for 2 hours, covering approx 80 miles, motorway (70mph), A (40-60mph) and B roads (30-60mph)... I loved it compared to my America 865 and ordered the Speedie when I returned from the test ride. However, I did stop halfway to fill up as the tank is tiny and was only part full.

I have since done a regular 79 mile journey to a friend's house and I found that the stock seat presses on my perineal nerve and makes my 'bits' numb at around 45miles.

Step 1. Took original seat to my favourote uphosterers and got them to remove the lump at the front and put the cover back on. This improved the journey time to around 50 miles, but 'bits' were still numb.

Step 2. I changed for the brown quilted seat from Triumph. This improved the look of the bike considerably (I have Cranberry Red), but shortened the journey time to around 15 miles before my 'bits' were numb (not good and promnotes prostate problems, including possible cancer traits if prolonged)

Step 3. Took brown quilted seat back to dealer and as it was not really that used, they put it back in the polythene and credited my account. Ordered and fitted Triumph Comfort seat... this was again an improvement and I managed around 50 miles before I was numb again... I could live with this I thought...

Step 4... but the bike looked better with a brown seat and so I went back to my favourote upholsterers and got it covered in plain close grained chocolate brown leather. This unfortunately stopped me moving freely on the seat and so reduce my comfort time to about 40 miles, but had noticed over time the strain on my wrists due to the stock beach bars.

Step 5. bought 1" up and back risers from 'Motone' and a set of LSL Flat track bars after reading another post about 2" up and back risers on this forum from Rox. The wrist problems gone, but the comfort time bofore my 'bits' went numb shortened to 30 miles as I was a tad more forwards.

Step 6. Ordered a corbin seat after reading how good it was onn this forum. This was sure to sort my problems I thought.....

Step 7. Whilst waiting for the Corbin seat from the US (I am in the UK), I ordered some 1" riser extensions again from 'Motone' and found I had no numbness on my journeys, but still the recovered Comfort seat looks like it is floating and spoils the look and I was after a bit more comfort over all so could not wait for the Corbin to arrive.

Step 8. Corbin Solo arrived and I fitted it but it has rubbed the paint from the shock in less than 10 miles... No idea a bout numbness as the journey was too uncomfortable with all the rubbing and bing from the shock...

I am currentlty awaiting a proper response from Corbin (see other thread on Corbin seat)

I am a tad overweight at 205lbs ish, so the pressure on my perineal nerve is partly caused by a combination of being 'fat' and long (6ft tall) and the shape of the Speedie (it is small).

My conclusion is that you need to be in the right position to be comfotable on this bike... too far forward and I have problems with pressure in the wrong place. Changing the bars and sitting back a bit more solves this for me.

Considering a dart screen to stop the buffeting at speed, but I am happy now I have changed the bars and the seat from stock. I think the Cobin Solo wil be more comfortable if they can make it fit for purpose and not rub, but the comfort seat trumps the stock seat for sure if not.

I suggest a 100+ mile test ride and try to get one on the comfort seat for sure... depending on your height/length of inside leg.

HTH
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That's a good touring bike - friend put about 150k miles with his wife behind him on one set up for touring - think it was a '94, but not sure.

I have a '97 Dyna Wide Glide - only front end is different from your Dyna......

So how do you compare your Super Glide with the Speedmaster for touring?

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Did 210 miles last week 2-up with the wife. Have the Triumph comfort seats front and back. I'm 5'10, 180lbs. The Triumph comfort seat works well for me, but the rear, while better than the awful stock one, still doesn't cut it for my wife. So still searching for a better solution there.
I've done a couple hundred miles on a T120 as well so I can tell you for sure you will feel more stretched out on the Speedmaster with the forward footpegs.
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