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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-09-2016, 01:36 AM Thread Starter
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Question Shorter sidestand

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I have an '09 Tiger that has been lowered 1", and the damn sidestand is just a bit too long. Does anyone know of a good replacement stand, or if the original is able to be shortened?
Thanks in advance.
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When I had my 1050 the local machine shop cut some out and welded the foot back on. Worked great.
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Thanks mate. Will look at that.
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Ever notice that welding shops seem dimly lit? They are and there is a good reason: When steel is heated to that dull cherry color it hasn't hit the temp needed to mess up it's hardening or metallurgy. That dull red is exactly the temp needed to bend steel and not have it crack or otherwise weaken it. The reason I mention this is that the side stand can be shortened without cutting or welding or clanging the mount. With the bike sitting on the side stand and in a dim welding shop you simply and slowly heat the side stand up to just visible dull cherry red. Make sure you do that in the middle of the stand. Then take a Single Jack or small hand sledge give the side stand a hard whack in the center while the weight of the bike is resting on the stand. It will buckle in easily and the bike will settle lower. The ones I have done always came into adjustment with two or three whacks. Let the side stand air cool and don't quench. You need someone holding the bike so you don't over-bend the stand. To recover the original length you simply remove the stand and heat it again and whack it in the straighten position while it lays on the welding bench.

The side stand is a really tough piece of steel and it is heat-treated to get it so. If you try this in a lit shop or outside in daylight you will invariably "OVER-HEAT" the metal and it will bend under the weight of the bike when you are finished. Ask your Olde Time welder as I did and you will hear this story...as I did.

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Hey John. Hoping things are well with you.

I was not sure if the sidestand was a cast item or not, and if so was it safe to heat and bend, as you suggest.

Thanks.
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SOLO,

Your reservations are valid and easily understandable....by me, anyway. To my thinking, the side stand 'cannot" be a cast item. Cast is the much weaker sister of forged. Given the angle of the stand and the 500 pound bike weight and the possible added weight of 300 pounds of riders and maybe 50 pounds of baggage, no way a casting would live even a moment after coming to a stop and gently resting the entire mass on the side-stand in prep for a dismount. now, I admit that conclusion is rooted in my degrees in metallurgy and life-long experience in the field, but never the less. (understand I am joking and being sarcastic) Be sure and notice I deferred to the wisdom of a welder and, for what it is worth, that is a prime indicator of veracity and concern for the listener. Common steel stock would fold up like a napkin as well.

To gain confidence in this "theory", set your bike on the side stand and give the center of the stand a whack with a hand sledge. See how robust that feels and the hammer is ricocheted back at you. I suggest this method only because it was suggested to me by an authority and I have done it a few times and also straightened one that I had previously bent and then raised the ride height. I weigh 277 at the moment but I am a dainty 277 and I stand on the peg to mount-up and I carry 50 pounds of "stuff".

You could bend the thing after heating it with a simple MAP torch if you can achieve the dull cherry red in the center of the stand.
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I also cut an inch out of the side stand after lowering with JBQ 35MM links.
Much better. Smooth it out, spray it black and looks like new.
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hi guys, I was just doing a web search for a shortened stand ( 06 speed )...mine barely stands up at the moment... I've dropped the beast a good 1&1/2 inches (40mmm )
Its looking like an engineers cut and weld is the only option.
I love it this height but need a low profile sump plug now as its only 10cm from the tarmac and I am grinding it on those galvanizes chequerplate speedhumps common in shopping centres.
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When I had my 1050 the local machine shop cut some out and welded the foot back on. Worked great.
I did the same for my 1050 Sprint. I cut out about an inch from the middle, sharpened each end to a point and welded it back together. A little finish grinding and some black spray paint and you can hardly tell it's been shortened. That was several years ago and it's still in one piece!

If you're not a welder, any local shop should be able to do it in under an hour. Just try to make the cut in the straightest part of the kickstand so it's easier to maintain the alignment.

If you're worried about ruining your stand, you might find a used one at a bike salvage yard or on eBay, etc.

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I also cut an inch out of the side stand after lowering with JBQ 35MM links.

Much better. Smooth it out, spray it black and looks like new.


I did the exact same thing. Then decided I liked it better without the lowering links. Luckily a member at tiget1050.com had an adjustable side stand they were willing to part with. Im not sure who made it but it works just fine.


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