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Question about TORS and map on new bike

Just got back from getting some pricing on a new Storm. The dealer dropped the price on the bike some, enough to make me contemplate it over a used one I was looking at. However, he wasn't really doing anything off the accessories.

I want the short TORS, and I've found them online for considerably less than what the dealer is asking. If I go thru him on the bike, would it be harmful to the bike to have him put the TOR map on it when I take delivery, if I keep the stock pipes on it for the ride home (60 miles)? I was thinking I'd order the pipes online, but have him put the map on the bike so that all I have to do is install the pipes when I get the bike home. Any harm in that? Should I get through the break in period before I put the new pipes and map on, or is it okay to do that immediately?

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The bike will run fine. A little rich, but fine. When you put the pipes on you should also think about a high flow air filter.

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Actually from what I've read the fuel isn't increased in the TOR map. The only change is that the timing is more advanced.
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Okay, so doesn't sound like it'd cause any harm then. It's okay to run the TORS during the break in period? Or is it better to wait before putting them on?

I was thinking if I have them in time, I could just take them with me when I pick up the bike and have them installed while I am there. I have to arrange that ahead of time, of course.
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Just got back from getting some pricing on a new Storm. The dealer dropped the price on the bike some, enough to make me contemplate it over a used one I was looking at. However, he wasn't really doing anything off the accessories.

I want the short TORS, and I've found them online for considerably less than what the dealer is asking.
What price did you get for the new Storm and for short exhausts (the OEM price is 429.99 I think)?
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What price did you get for the new Storm and for short exhausts (the OEM price is 429.99 I think)?
He didn't move much on the list price of the bike, but for the bike alone (2012 Storm ABS) he came down to 16k OTD. So not that great, but the other dealers around here aren't doing any better. I can get a used 2011 for 13k after taxes...so trying to determine if ABS, extra year of warranty, brand new bike, etc is worth $3k...right now I am leaning toward yes, it's worth it. I told him I wanted to think about it over the weekend and I would call him Monday. I think I might say that if he will take 10% off the pipes, air filter, and swingarm cover...and install them for free (the bike still needs to be unpacked...can't take much longer to throw that stuff on during the process), then I'll take it. Really, if he throws me any sort of bone on the accessories I'll probably take it just to avoid the hassle of getting them myself, installing them, getting the map loaded, etc.

I don't think this is a very good time to get the best deal on a brand new bike. However, I want to ride this year, and this is the bike I've wanted for a while, so I think I'll jump on it even if I'm not getting the best deal ever. He's knocking about $900 off, so I'll consider that a small victory and move on with my life.

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I think you should be able to get 15% off the accessories. Haggle on the extras is a good idea. Good luck.


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Yeah, I was thinking about it last night, and I am going to call him today and tell him I'll take it at the price he offered, if he gives me 15% off the accessories, and installs them for free. Another dealer in the area said that they discount accessories for life if you buy from them, and anything you buy with the bike is installed free, so I don't think it's asking too much.
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There is probably about $1500 in markup on the bike itself, and on top of that they are charging you an assembly fee of I'm guessing a few hundred bucks (varies from dealer to dealer). So if he is giving you $900 off the sticker he is still making $600, and he is making money on the assembly fee as well even after he pays his technician. Plus this doesn't even get in to the percentage he gets on the financing. So really there is room for him to play with here. There is no reason he shouldn't install the pipes for free to make the deal unless he knows you will buy it anyway.
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