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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-25-2012, 09:23 AM
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Exclamation Standard Seats vs. Long Haul Seats

Ok, yesterday my long haul seat arrived and I fitted it today. There were a few disappointments on the way, but overall not too bad. I have done some photos to show you the difference between the seats.

First though, I was glad to see the new Long Haul seat has a place to store the Suspension spanner, as does the standard pillion, but disappointed to find that the Long Haul pillion seat has no facility to hold the manual and service book, which is lame

Anyway, to show how the Long Haul pillion helps the "too far back Sissy Bar" problem I took some pictures.

This is how the Standard Pillion looks. Note the position of the back of the seat padding and the fixing screw...



And with the Sissy Bar it stops well short of the backrest...



Note too that the Long Haul Pillion does not work well with the Standard Rider Seat, it leaves a big gap...





I do have the Long Haul Rider Seat which fits beautifully with the Long Haul pillion so no worries for me there, but... when I fitted the new Long Haul pillion seat It did not fit well at all. The rubber feet that should sit on the fender were all 5mm or more above the fender, and the seat could rattle up and down at the front (bracket) end by a few mm, not good...



To improve the situation I removed the seat again and with a long nosed vice grip bent the rear fixing flange up a bit which lowered the rear rubber feet onto the fender. To lower the front end at the bracket I found some small nylon tube and split a couple of short lengths and fitted them in the bracket as spacers to take up the play and prevent the rattling...



They could probably have been a bit thicker, because there is still slight play and a slight rattle if one shakes the seat. But the forward rubber feet are almost on the fender and certainly sink to it with someone sitting on the seat.

Has anyone else noticed this problem?

With the seat on you can see it extends much further back than the Standard pillion seat, note the position of the back of the seat relative to the fixing screw now, the back of the seat is actually further back than the fixing screw...



And of course the seat is very comfortable with the Sissy Bar now (my girls tell me)...


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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-25-2012, 02:44 PM
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A couple questions:

1). Isn't there a longhaul seat that's one piece? I wonder if that would have a better fit and not have the problems you (Gold) had on the fit/rattle/etc.?

2). Does anyone know if there are other backrests other than the OEM Triumph one? I know the pickings are spare...but is the OEM the only one?
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Seats & Sissy Bars

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1). Isn't there a longhaul seat that's one piece?
There is, but I particularly wanted the separates so I can ride with the back seat off when I don't need it.

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2). Does anyone know if there are other backrests other than the OEM Triumph one?
Here's one:
Renntec

And another:
Highway Hawk Arch

And I quite like this simple one:
Triumph-Online

On ebay

Seems like there are a lot, google is your friend

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Has anyone fitted the one-piece touring seat (Rider / Pillion)?
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Has anyone fitted the one-piece touring seat (Rider / Pillion)?
I got the one piece long haul seat as part of an incentive package when I bought my bike. It has a better platform angle than the regular stock seat, but beyond that I didn't like it at all. It made my butt go numb after only 15 minutes, and I found it to be unusable. In the end I had my stock seat custom modified.
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Has anyone fitted the one-piece touring seat (Rider / Pillion)?
I have this "dual touring" seat and the quick release sissy bar kit. They work well together, and the seat was really comfortable for me on last year's cross country trip.

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I find the material on the long haul seats (I assume it is the same on the separates and the one piece) not nearly as nice to sit on as the stock seat. The stock seat is a bit more slippery, whereas the long haul seat is "grippy" and causes a burning sensation in the behind after a short while. I think I may try treating it with some kind of leather polish or cream... any suggestions here?

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