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post #11 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-20-2011, 11:32 PM
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I'd go with the T-Bird without batting an eye. The Victory is an OK bike, but I was a tech at a Triumph/Victory dealer and we had FAR more problems with the Victorys. They also have far less lean angle that the Thunderbird. And, I have to disagree with the comments about the America. I have had a Bonneville America since 2002 and couldn't be happier. Pipes, snorkels removed from the airbox and jetting and it will easily run with the Harley guys and out handle them all.

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post #12 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-22-2011, 06:23 PM
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Aha!! something I can finally comment on!

When i started looking for a new bike, in 1 day I rode a HD Street Bob, Victory Vegas and the last bike of the day was the Triumph Storm... By the time I got into 3rd gear the STORM was the go!!

HD looks the goods but in Australia is crazilly priced @ $32,500 (on road). Engine/gearbox was just too rough for the $.

I nearly bought the Vegas, looks great, very comfortable ride and seating position. But the transmission was just aweful, every gear up or down CLUNK, CLACK, CLUNK but @ $19,990 (on road) quite good.

I actually bought the Storm demonstrator that I test rode.... thats how impressed i was.. Very smooth/quiet engine/trans, oooodles of power (even over the 1735cc Victory)

Trust me, give them all a run on 1 day and you'll notice the quality difference....

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post #13 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-23-2011, 01:00 PM
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Aha!! something I can finally comment on!

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I nearly bought the Vegas, looks great, very comfortable ride and seating position. But the transmission was just aweful, every gear up or down CLUNK, CLACK, CLUNK but @ $19,990 (on road) quite good.

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That is a good point. There are other things to consider in addition to pure power, handling, etc. Aussie Al mentions one - the transmission. All but 1st gear are helical cut gears - the bike shifts very smooth and for reasons I'm not sure of, it takes less force to keep the clutch level pulled in compared to other bikes.

The engine is modern - injected, water cooled and dual overhead cams. You can even use a free program with a $5 cable to update the ECU (TuneECU). The brakes are good, etc.

I have nothing against Victory and I considered one, but the Tbird gave me a very up-to-date bike at a reasonable price.
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post #14 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-25-2011, 06:19 PM
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Victory because you can get an Extended warranty on it! No need to adjust valves after 12,000 miles . IMO the Victory High Ball is a sweet looking and sounding bike. And cause well I'll say it again you can get an extended warranty on a Victory. Which you can also do on a Harley and they hold their resell value better too!
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Victory because you can get an Extended warranty on it!
Which you will undoubtedly need on the Victory but not the TBird!
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post #16 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-27-2011, 08:11 PM
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I also would really make sure you're comparing apples to apples. When I was shopping Triumph against Victory I was comparing the XRoads against the Bird SE ABS. There was a significant monetary difference for me which helped push the Triumph over the top. The Vic is a great bike and far better than any HD but they're not cheap either. To some small degree they're not fully comparable either due to the Air/Oil cooling of the Vic and Water Cooling of the Triumph. A Water cooled engine will outlast the Air cooled engine handily.
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post #17 of 120 (permalink) Old 12-28-2011, 07:39 AM
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Get a Victory so we can keep the TBird rare . Cheers.
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Let's see now, this is the Triumph Forum, and specifically the sub-section for Thunderbirds...
Hum... I wonder if the people who hang out here prefer the Harley Softail, the Victory Kingpin, or the Triumph Thunderbird?
Hey, I bet the consensus is going to be the Thunderbird!

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Ya think? Besides it being a much better bike than either, that's another valid reason.
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Let's see now, this is the Triumph Forum, and specifically the sub-section for Thunderbirds...
Hum... I wonder if the people who hang out here prefer the Harley Softail, the Victory Kingpin, or the Triumph Thunderbird?
Hey, I bet the consensus is going to be the Thunderbird!
It's still a valid question since it's safe to assume that many Tbird owners considered a Victory as well. Asking the question, the OP gets the reason why folks here choose the Bird over a Victory.

Then, go to the Victory board and ask the same question and he gets the reasons why people there choose Victory.

Doing this, the OP will likely find out a few things he won't have thought of on his own.

The question makes sense...
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