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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 08:07 AM Thread Starter
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I know similar issues have been bought up about the metz tyres before but I got back from a trip late yesterday avro and cleaned the bike today and can see the belts coming through the middle of the tyre!.Thing is I have only done 7800km.I reckon even if I had never checked the pressure,done the whole nullarbor plain or rode really hard,you shouldn't wear a good tyre out that fast.What do you fellas reckon,Im thinking it should be a warranty thing.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 08:26 AM
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What pressure are you actually running and how much weight are you carrying? I am assuming that it is just the rubber wearing down and not DELAMINATION?

You might try contacting Metzeler?

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Metzler tires have always had reports of less tread life than say Dunlops. That said, they seem to handle better so my guess is Metz uses a softer compound. So, no doubt that is the trade off. Now 7800 is pretty short life so you might try complaining and maybe get some allowance from Metz.
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Tire mileage is not a warranty issue. And Metzelers are VERY short lived. Many of us have gone to the Avon storm ultra 2 and are seeing as much as double the mileage. I only have a couple thou on mine, but it still looks new where at 2k on the metz i'd be seeing some considerable wear. No problem mixing and matching either. I like many am still running a metz up front, and for some reason it's been lasting a LOT longer than the rear. Odd because my first couple metzelers up front didn't last long at all. No idea what changed, but it handles as well as it did with metzelers front and rear.

One thing to note tho. the metz is a very soft compound and you may well be safer in a straight line because the avon is dual compound. So the center of the tire is a harder compound than the metz. the outer tread is softer, so it appears as safe and sticky as the metz in a turn. But in a straight line the avon's center compound is going to lock up easier. I know because that never happened with metz and in a mild emergency stop recently i locked the rear with the avon. Happened easier than i thought it would. So for the best safety stick with the metz and pay the premium. I feel the avo is as good in the turns where I tend to worry about tire stickiness. In a straight line i feel the rider can make up for it with good control once he knows the tire's limitations. The front is another story and i would not use a dual compound there.
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I am finding the same thing with the Dunlop dual compound tire as dazco is with the Avon. The outer tread is nice and sticky (Deal's Gap a month ago was a LOT of fun with this tire) but the center is pretty solid. I have a good 4-5k miles on my Dunlop now, and it is still wearing pretty well.

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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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I have the pressure at 38-40psi,I'am 105kg and normally ride solo.My 12yr old son comes on the back to go to footy training , we've just done a 1150km round tip together and he is about 45kg ringing wet and we had 8-10kg of gear if that . I will get on the phone today and see how I go but you're right I more than likely will get bugger all ,but either way I need a tyre. I will be going a dual compound this time,I live in a country town so there is a lot of straight riding involved sometimes and I cant afford to put a new metz on ever 5 months. Thanks for your comments fellas . ps Daz you put a lot of thought into your tyre may I ask why you picked the avon in the end?.

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Because it's generally a very well respected brand and several Tbird owners tried it and liked and reported good wear. Second, there aren't a lot of choices in our size. Seems the cutoff point for a lot of manufacturers is 190 and ours are 200. The only other 200's i found aren't tires with great reputations.
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Hi Wallace, just changed my rear tyre for the first time today - the original Metz only did 8046 kms - pretty low by my estimates, but she's a heavy bike and I use her mostly 2-up and often loaded. I might have gotten another 500 I guess, but am gearing up for quite a long run next weekend and don't wanna get caught short.
I'm continuing with a Metz for now as we do a lot more damp riding here, and I value the stickability (and for that reason use Pirellis on my Bonnie); however, I took to using dual compound tyres riding in West Oz myself from 1996-2002 on my Trophy and then a Sprint ST, and though I was initially suss on the concept, the duals were excellent in Western Australian conditions: good mileage for not much concession in handling/grip. Anyway, looks like 8000 kms or so isn't that unusual for the factory rear - cheers, Pat

Oh, I think at least 40psi is the go for a tyre that size, despite what the owner's manual says...

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Thanks for all the imput fellas.My dealer in perth reckons I've done well to get the mileage I got and my local bike shop guy said the same so thats the end of that.The bloke here says he has problems getting avons (something to do with delivery he said) so we've looked on the net for other options.Couldn't find the dunlop D208 thats in the manual, so I've gone with a new one dunlop make called a road smart sport max.It's a sport/touring tyre, dual compound 200/50zr17, with all the correct ratings for the bike.It'll be here on tuesday and fitted wednesday so I'll see how that go's.Thanks again.
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wallacej, please let us know how you do with the Dunlops. They always wore like iron on my Harleys.
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