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New tune for ethanol?

Dealer called today to say my floorboards and hardware had arrived, and that I could come by to have them intalled. When I dropped the bike off the tech said it sounded lean, and that he would do the new tune for me. What tune? He said a new tune had just come out to adjust for the ethanol content in gas (up to 10% around here). He said it would help avoid starting problems and any poping on deceleration.
I won't get the bike back until tomorrow morning, so I don't know if I'll be able to tell any difference.
Can anybody tell me if they've experienced any performance changes with this tune?

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Hmmm....this may answer a question i had. First let me say that the tuneecu site hosts all the triumph tunes and all of them say they are for ethanol content up to E25 which i think means 25%. But the reason i say this may answer a question for me is this....i had the 20310 map (1700 w/TORS and SAI) on my PC that i had downloaded from there a few months ago. I have however been using a custom tune and decided to go back to the 20310 map so i loaded it a week ago. The bike ran ok and i didn't notice anything different in the way it ran. But it did all of a sudden have a starting issue. So i figured maybe i should download a new copy in case the map i had got corrupted or something. So i downloaded it and after putting it in the bike the thing ran like it never has. It had much better low end torque and was smoother. Even the random engine noises seem to have calmed down.

So now i'm wondering if this is a improved tune but with the same number. I always thought they change the number when they modified a tune but who knows. I will have to email him and ask. Anyways, as to your question, like i said the maps have long said they were good for ethanol up to E25 so i'm not sure what they are up to. Maybe your bike's tune was a very old one unless your bike is pretty new.
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I bought mine new in May of this year, it's a 2010 1600 with production date of Jan 2010.
I haven't noticed any problems other than an occasional popping when I shift down. It normally starts fine for me.
Yesterday the tech heard it pop when I pulled up (he was outside with another bike), and he had to hit the starter button twice when he moved into the shop. That's when he said it sounded lean and he'd do the new tune. He specifically said though that it was a new tune that they had just received "to address the ethanol issue" - sounded pleased.
I'll pick the bike up later this morning and ask more questions.

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Thats interesting since all the current tunes already address ethanol up to E25. Maybe they are behind the times and just hadn't downloaded new tunes for the Tbird for a while. In any event i'd love to try it, but at this point my bike is running so amazingly i doubt i will chance doing ANYTHING that might change that. Do me a favor if you can...ask them what the tune number is. I want to see if it's different than mine.
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I picked up the bike at noon and all the techies were gone to lunch. Owner was there and said he would write down the tune number when he brought my bike around. When he came back he said he couldn't figure out how to look it up, but would ask the techs when they got back.
I called back later to remind them to save my old foot pegs and the owner said he'd told them to write it on the box for me. I'll pick that stuff up tomorrow and let you know the number.
From talking to the owner though, it doesn't sound like anything new - he repeated what you said that there was a tune for ethanol up to 25%. Anyway, you'll be able to figure it out when I get the number.
On the bright side, I can absolutely tell that they did something to the bike. It is definitively quieter - compared to before it almost purrrrs! I didn't realize how noisy it was, probably because I didn't have a frame of reference. Overall it just sounds "tighter" and runs smoother and you can hear the exhaust note better too. I also didn't experience any popping, and I drove for about 30 miles and purpusely decelerated hard trying to make it do it again. I'm guessing it never had the proper tune done since I picked it up new.
On a separate note, I really like the floor boards. At first it was a little awkward, but once I got the hang of using my heel to shift I really liked it. And the ride is much more comfortable too with my feet planted flat. It does seem that feet are positioned slightly farther back than before which I'm not sure will be better on long rides. I guess that means cruising pegs for my engine guard will be next!
If anybody out there with a newer bike is having starting problems, popping noises or just an abnormally noisy engine, I recommend you make sure you have the proper tune - Daz in right - it can make a big difference.
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Thanks, it will be interesting to compare the tune number with what your bike shows on the tuneecu site. But sounds like i was right as you say and it's the same old tune. I just came back from lunch. I don't usually go out on the bike at lunch but i just couldn't resist. I can't get over how great it's running. Your description sounds just like what i experienced when i did adaption, tho with mine the most impressive difference is the power it gained. makes it so much more fun. However, my situation unfortunately has left me with starting issues. thankfully only in the morning after a full night of sitting. i think it may just be some bad gas or such but we'll see. by the way, i think my MPG is thru the roof compared with that custom tune. On the gas gauge where it is when i am at 60 miles on the tank, today it was at 82 ! Thats a huge difference, but i will wait till i fill up and do the calculation then. but so far it's looking very impressive. I may be getting as good or better mileage as i did when it was a 1600.
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Went by the dealer and he had the tune number for me. The number is E030256. I think that's the same number I've seen you mention before - not new. Anyway, the bike runs noticeably better.

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Well, i can't check because the tuneecu site seems to be down.
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