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post #21 of 65 (permalink) Old 09-18-2011, 07:08 AM Thread Starter
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Picked the Bike the other day only rode it for a short time and all seemed well as I mentioned in previous post.

Yesterday went on a longer ride and found when I was shifting down to 3rd 2nd and 1st gear they would not engage even when I was stationary I had to keep banging on the gear selector.

Took it out today and had the same issues its either a Monday Bike or a Friday bike I am sure of that.

So tomorrow its back to the dealer and I will be contacting Triumph directly then I am getting rid of this thing, 3 months old and very disappointed.

No triumphs for me ever again.

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Mine does the same thing. It doesn't like to drop down multiple gears with the clutch in. I've had other bikes that have done this so I didn't give it much thought.

If you drop down one gear at a time mine is fine. It's only with clutch in I have problems.

I would be interested in what others have experienced.

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Graeme,

I don't think this is a triumph issue. My last bike, Kawa Vulcan, did the same thing. It is an issue with how motorcycle clutches are designed. They don't do very well at shifting when stationary. If you downshift while rolling to a stop, you shouldn't have that issue.

If you have to shift at a stop, release the clutch just to the beginning of the friction zone as you down shift each gear, and it should shift just fine. Obviously, cover your brake, just in case you let the clutch go too far.
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I'm not sure exactly how you're shifting down, or if you're trying to go past several gears at one time. I can do what I think you're describing on my Volutia.
However, regarding the Thunderbird, page 44 of my owner's handbook, 2nd column, top, in bold print, says:
"The gear shift mechanism is the 'positive stop' type. This means that, for each movement of the gear shift pedal/lever, you can only select each gear, one after the other, in ascending or decending order."
Perhaps you're talking about something completely different, but thought I'd mention it just in case.

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Graeme,

I don't think this is a triumph issue. My last bike, Kawa Vulcan, did the same thing. It is an issue with how motorcycle clutches are designed. They don't do very well at shifting when stationary. If you downshift while rolling to a stop, you shouldn't have that issue.

If you have to shift at a stop, release the clutch just to the beginning of the friction zone as you down shift each gear, and it should shift just fine. Obviously, cover your brake, just in case you let the clutch go too far.
Agreed. If he's saying it does this while moving tho, then it IS a problem. Seems he is, tho the way it's worded is a bit confusing.
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when I was shifting down to 3rd 2nd and 1st gear they would not engage even when I was stationary
Thats sounds as if to say that when stationary it should be easier. But stationary is where no bike will do that well w/o having to keep banging on it. If it's doung it while moving tho theres a definate problem obviously.
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Hi all,
Sorry if I have not been clear, the issue is gearing down whilst moving. I have done well over 250000 km's on my various bikes. I have experinced gear selection issues when stationary on my other bikes as well usually through lazy gear selection.

This is has been happening when I have been cruising in 5th and 6th gear for a while.

When I start to come down through the gears, always one at a time. I get 3rd, 2nd and 1st gear, it won't go into gear and feels like it's in neutral. When you do eventually stop it still won't find it. There has been a number of times when I have been shifting down to go around a cnr thinking I am in second only to find it's still in 4th gear causing the motor to labour and chug. This is not a good place to be.

This has only been happening since I got the bike back after a switch that controls the ecu was replaced.

Hopefully this explains my issue slightly better.

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Here's hoping

I contacted Triumph Australia today and spoke with the head service tech. He was very helpful as I described all my issues with this bike.

The fork legs and exhaust are all cosmetic and have been rectified under warranty.

The engine management system is fixed. So far so good.

As for my shifting issues as soon as I told him what the issue was he immediately said he new what the problem was and I was to take it down to my Triumph dealer right away.

I took it down to them, it appears there is some shim in between the gear lever and shifter linkage, they sometimes dry out and dont allow the pedal to reset itself or something like that.

Anyway they pulled it apart and greased the splines and this shim that looks like a flat 3/4 washer.

I took it for a ride and it appeared to work itself out. It now appears to be working.

So here's hoping its ok now.

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Sounds like you've got it sorted out - "all's well that ends well". Now go ride and enjoy!

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Great, glad they got it done. Always a worry because....well you know how i feel about dealers. Maybe you got a good one. anyways, good on ya.
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If the clutch isn't adjusted correctly,you will have problems shifting both up and down.The free play at the lever should be 1/4 inch.Is IT??? Dave!!!
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