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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2011, 11:16 PM Thread Starter
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I saw a bike with car tires on it and the dude said they perform fine and last much longer. I'm tired of changing tires. Thoughts?
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Yep, and the reason car tires last longer is the compound is much harder for obvious reasons. Theres a reason there are car tires and bike tires and a reason race bikes don't use car tires. If you ride sedately and never corner hard then maybe you're a candidate. Personally i will not risk my life to save a few bucks. Try running avons. There are many of us running the avon storm ultra rear and getting more mileage. One guy is up to 8000 and says it has almost 1/2 left. that would be about 60-65% better mileage and therefore 60-65% cheaper than metzler if it does go that long. I'm running the metz up front still and they work fine together. some are running the avon cobra up front.

You'll see all kinds of convincing arguments for car tires from guys using them. They'll swear they handle as good and all that. But check this out....i can't count the times i have taken the advice of the masses online only to find them dead wrong even tho there were a lot of them with convincing arguments and seemingly quite intelligent, and you cannot understand how so many people can all be wrong. But it happens all the time when people get together and theres an internet feeding frenzy on a given product or idea. I made the mistake of believing them and lost many times on many products, not just bike products/ideas. You wanna trust them and find out they were wrong when your life is on the line, thats your prerogative. I won't tho. get a set of avons and your bike will do everything the way it should and you will have peace of mind AND more mileage.
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Look at your motorcycle tires and you'll see they are designed with rounded sidewalls designed to grip the road in a turn. Car tires have no tread on the sidewalls and if you tilt them to the side there would be next to nothing as far as rubber contacting the road.

Maybe on a straight line drag bike ... But first corner in a bit of rain and I'm guessing you'd be sorry.

I sure wouldn't risk it.

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It also depends on the type of bike you ride. I have a friend who rides a Gold Wing and has put 44,000 miles on it, mostly on long road trips. He uses a car tire - Michelin - on the rear only and swears by it.
On other forums there are endless threads about the pros and cons of "darksiding" or using a car tire. Personally, for either of my bikes, I wouldn't even consider it. On large, heavy touring bikes with a pillion - like a Gold Wind - it's not uncommon. Pretty common on big scooters like the Suzuki Burgman AN650 too.
I agree with Lantesh - you wouldn't seriously consider tractor tires or trailer tires on a car - different use. The two main differences for us are a) you only have two points of contact, and b) you lean significantly on curves and use the side of tire. You need all the traction you can get.
I'd stick with something designed for motorcycles and for your particular bike. I'm sure there are those out there who have, or do, use a car tire though - this question is always good for a spirited "discussion".

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I went on a local Triumph group ride here on the coast and we split into 2 groups as there were over 20 of us - we ended up with a leader on a gold wing running a car tire. Very flat tire across tread, and so sharp edged on the sidewall - from behind you really couldn't notice on the straight but when we got into the twisties, we never went the speed limit - always slower and you could see the entire tire lift up and ride only on the sidewall. It looked ridiculous, and he did admit that it took some getting used to to make it turn. My opinion comes from something my dad taught me growing up and you Brits will understand exactly what I'm saying - "If you can afford the Mercedes, WHY did you go with the diesel engine to try and save a few bucks on gas?" To quote Jeremy from Top Gear/UK - "It's hideous". So again, this is just my opinion, but if you can afford to buy a Tbird - then you can afford to put good gas in it, and the proper tires on it. Car tires are for...cars.

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Guess i'll look into the Avons. I have metzlers on my Tbird and dunlops on my yamaha fjr. It's not the money really, but I hate the trouble of taking the bike in frequently for tires. I ride to work and put 20,000+ miles on my bikes annually. One thought I had was to learn to, get the equipment to, change 'em myself. But...how easy is that?
Not so much i suppose...But I do think the tires could be made to last longer. Sigh...
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If anyone can find a CT in a 17 inch,55 series size with a 7 1/2 inch tread width,LET ME KNOW.I'll show ya just how fast I'll dump these over priced,over rated,PISS POT POOR mileage radial MC tires used on the T Bird.I'm on my 5th rear tire @ 180 some odd dollars each,and my third front tire @ 120 some odd dollars each.And that's buyin em on line.The stealerships will charge a lot more for the same tire.Do the math.We're keepin the tire manufacturers in business and makin em rich while we're goin on the poor farm! Plus I do my own tires.Just think how much more money I would have had to spend at the stealerships if I could NOT do em myself.What are we talkin here,another 50-100 bucks per tire?? Now do the math.It's crazy and totally insane.The biggest problem with using a CT on the Bird is the swing arm.Most machines use a square swing arm.But NOOOOOOOOOOO,Triumph uses a U shaped swing arm on the T Bird which limits the space needed to get a CT in there.

And ya.I do agree that if you're gonna play squirrel on corners,then you're better off with the MC tire.But there are guys out there like me [old geezers,lol] who drive sanely.lol Most of the time. lol

So if anyone ever finds a CT in the narrower width,17 inch size,let me know.I'll be the guinny pig and die with money in my pocket instead of givin it to the MC tire companies. Dave!!!
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Dave, what brand do you ride? And how many miles are you getting out of a set?
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I have used the Metz tires,which suck,the new 800 series Bridgestone,the Avon Storm,and now the Avon Storm II Ultra.The Metz gave me 6000 miles on both rear tires and 10,000 on the first front,but only 5000 miles on the second front.So they're no longer even a option.The front Stone G851 has over 8500 miles on it and still looks pretty good.So it should go atleast another 2-3000 miles.The first rear Avon Storm got 9000 miles,which was still no bargain.The second rear Avon was the Ultra but only went 1400 miles before I hit a piece of metal with a 2 1/2 inch,3/16 thick sheet metal screw in it which destroyed it.I now have another Ultra on the rear with over 3000 miles on it,but that's really not enough to prove its worth.I just measured the depth of it this mornin and it's at 6/32.It started at 8/32 when new. Dave!!!
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