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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 09-01-2011, 08:17 AM Thread Starter
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Anybody find this irritating?

http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle..._diavel_carbon

I'm surprised nobody has commented on this yest, so I will.

Apparently, in order to keep the Thunderbird from winning three straight (the Storm was a no-brainer) they had to redefine the category.
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 09-01-2011, 09:36 AM
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I agree. This bike is not a traditional cruiser at all and reclassification of the Ducati offering by one magazine does not make it so. I was kind of taken aback by the article. In fact, there was a previous article, maybe other magazine, that said that Ducati was NOT a cruiser. In my experience, the Triumph Thunderbird got cruiser of the year in 2009 and 2010 for good reason. Moreover, Triumph really priced the bike right. When a manufacturer makes a bike that tracks beautifully, has good HP and torque, fully usable around 2750 rpm, belt drive, has excellent brakes with their ABS, gets around 42-45 mpg on regular fuel, has a really smooth shifting set of cut gears and Metzelers matched to the bike, what is not to like? The Ductati is a nice bike, plenty of power, but placing it as a cruiser did not seem justified to me.
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This has been discussed elsewhere at length. So far i have only seen one person who says it IS a cruiser. But of i think 6 or 7 reviewers who all took part and each gave thier opinion at the end, all said they couldn't pick the ducati even if they liked it better because it's not a cruiser. But the mag called the duc COTY anyways. Insane....just completely insane. What will they do next....have a sportie shootout and include the bird. Then maybe give the bird the win because it tours with better comfort. Someone is putting drugs in the coffee machine at CW, gotta be.

Do i find it irritating? heck yeah ! I find it downright stupid. Either ducati is paying someone or there is at least on moron working at CW who has final say and doesn't care that he's the only one that thought this was a good idea. Take a sportbike, lower the seat, and whoopie, ya got yerslf a cruiser !!! How do they explain this cruiser has less torque than the Tbird? Simple.....maybe not simple to whoever the idiot that made this call, but the Tbird engine is a cruiser engine.....tuned for torque at the expense of HP. Notice every single sportie is the opposite and like the ducati they all have much more HP than the bid and much less torque at a higher RPM. That alone is one VERY important difference between a cruiser and a sportbike, but the ducati displays none of the cruiser engine details. Oh F it....idiots...

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I agree, I've seen this a couple of times now where magazines were "trying" (even if not enthusiastically) to classify the Diavel as a muscle cruiser. I'm not sure exactly where it should be, but definitely not a cruiser. In my mind I keep seeing it more in the naked bike category. Ducati may have aimed this at the cruiser market, but calling it a cruiser is a stretch. I kind of view this bike as Ducati's version of the V-Rod; the bastard child that's kind of cool, but nobody quite knows what to do with.

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It's a flash in the pan...

...this bike, in my oppinion, will not find a niche in the market over here. Especially not in the cruiser segment.

So they can say what they'd like, write what they will, but the end game is what the consumer accepts-purchases-says.

And I think the consumer will say, "Uh, nooooooo"

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What you said Dazco! It's just plain dumb.

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Muscle bike or muscle cruiser?

Back when bikes like the v-max and the kawasaki Eliminator first showed up on the market they called them muscle cruisers! Still today with the re-introduction of the new v-max it doesnt really qualify for anything other than a muscle cruiser. Looking at the history of how and why they called these bikes muscle bikes/cruiser I would have to say that the new Ducatti fits that description better but would assume they just dont want to have a classification with only 2 bikes in it (v-max and ducati). maybe 3 because the intent of the harley v-rod is questionable and its performance claims seem to be geared toward that muscle cruiser catagory also.

For me a long time muscle bike owner (Kawi Eliminator) I would have to put the new ducatti in that muscle bike stable and question anyones choice to label it otherwise!

Dont really care what bike they pick as I think my money spoke louder than thier words when I plopped it down on a new Thunderbird!

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I dunno. I think CW should have picked the Nissan Altima as best Touring Bike. It has much more storage capacity than a Road King, better load capacity than a Gold Wing and a much better sounding stereo than the BMW that they chose this year. And it will go farther on a tank of gas than any of those, in more comfort to boot.
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I dunno. I think CW should have picked the Nissan Altima as best Touring Bike. It has much more storage capacity than a Road King, better load capacity than a Gold Wing and a much better sounding stereo than the BMW that they chose this year. And it will go farther on a tank of gas than any of those, in more comfort to boot.
Theres always next year...
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I have a brand-new Ducati Multistrada, would LOVE to have a Diavel, but found this VERY irritating as well

In no way could the Diavel be classified as a "cruiser"... What about "muscle bike"??? Oh, never mind... They didn't have that category

... And I still LOVE my Thunderbird...
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