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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-29-2011, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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Hesitation re-applying ghrottle

So, here it goes. My storm has a hesitation when I quickly re-apply the throttle after rolling off of it. The dealer tells me that it is popping, I know what popping is. The feeling is obviously momentary loss of power, then come explosions under the seat, not cool. anyone had this issue? How do I approach the dealer regarding this matter. Without them telling me to pound sand?
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-30-2011, 01:40 AM
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I had kind of the same thing, I checked the freeplay on the grip (the owners manual tells you about it) and did the 12 min tune and it seemed to sort it.
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Thanks wallacej, I did what you did and fixed the issue. But the 12 min tune is something else! the smoothness and power I got after that was incredible. It makes me want to do it everyday
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Glad to hear i wasn't the only one that felt a big power increase. I had done the 12 minute tune a few other times, but this was the only time it ever made a difference in any way let alone power. My believe is that it will give results like that if the bike isn't adapted well to begin with. So you aren't actually gaining more power, just restoring power that was lost somehow. In my case from swapping tunes and running without sensors on a custom tune, pulling of the seat duct, etc. So somewhere in there i ended up with a bad adaption that never really rectified itself in the time allotted.
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Dazco, I believe that was the case, when I first noticed the hesitation it also felt a bit rough but being under 500 miles, then, I figured it would get better as I ride more. I have also changed my riding habits a bit. I blip the throttle quite a bit.
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Do you have TORs or is it 100% stock? i ask because they run like absolute [email protected] with TORs if the bike doesn't have the proper tune loaded. If you do have tors, make sure you confirm that you have the proper tune, which would be the 20310 tune. If you ask the dealer who knows if he will be honest with you. But with tuneecu and a cable to connect your PC and bike you can see what tune it is running. If you have stock pipes, disregard what i said and continue riding.
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Yes. But i have questioned what the differences are if any between automatic adaption, IE: letting the ECU adapt as you ride, and manual adaption, IE: 12 minute tune. When i loaded the map i'm using now after having been using a custom map for months, i had a minor starting issue so i loaded it a second time in hopes that would help the starting issue then did the 12 MT. I probably rode 300 miles the first time i loaded it and then after loading it the second time and doing the 12MT it ran worlds better. So the question is, if it didn't adapt in 300 miles then i question whether the automatic adaption does as much as the manual way. I have asked about this on several forums and no one has answered.
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I'm running 100% stock. May do pipes next year, as I dont think i'll be riding much past december.
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Thumbs up tune and laptop query ?

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.... But with tuneecu and a cable to connect your PC and bike you can see what tune it is running.........
Dazco please pardon my ignorance what is a tuneecu, what sort of cable do you need, where do you plug it (into the bike) and what software do you need to run on the laptop ?

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