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Test drove a T-bird SE today, Questions for the T-Bird Experts.

I've been toying with the idea of getting a T-bird SE lately. I started a thread in Twins talk and it appears that things have moved around a bit so I wanted to get this going in the right section.
https://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk...est-drive.html
Today I went and test drove a demo T-bird that is at my nearest dealer. I had previously tested a Storm and was impressed. Today I wanted to see if there was any issues with my large feet and the heel/toe Shifter setup. It worked our ok with that. I am seriously considering getting it but I was curious about a few things.
1. From what I have read, the T-bird has come through it's introduction with very few teething problems. That said, are there any issues I need to be aware of?
2. Maintenance. What sort of maintenance schedule does it have? Are there any weird issues I need to be aware of? Like half the bike needs to come apart for a simple service item or something of that nature. Belt drive, How long is the belt good for?
3. IIRC the T-bird SE had an MSRP of $14,999 brand new. Considering the relative rarity (around here at least), would $13,500 be considered a reasonable asking price for a demo with 2500 miles on it?
4. Do the saddle bags come off without a handful of tools. Me and the salesman were properly defeated by them if they just pop right off.
5. Ideas? Suggestions?

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1-nothing that hasn't been rectified as far as i can recall.

2-yeah, there are a ton of things like that. It's something you have to live with or else consider a different bike. have found a ton of that kind of maintenance issue. For example, it took me about 2 hours and a lot of screaming and sweating and cussing to change spark plugs. Not kidding ! Others have done it and basically said the same thing. It's a maintenance hog and you either have to spend a lot of time and/or money depending on what or how much you do yourself. I won't kid you....it's a pain, but on the other hand i think most big bikes are the same. It really boils down to this...do you want to pick a bike thats not bad at all as maintenance goes regardless of how much or LITTLE you like it, or do you want a bike that makes it hard to get to sleep at nite thinking or tomorrow's ride. Whats that worth to you?

3-don't know

4-buy one and deal with the rest. It's worth it. It's the best bike i ever ode, period. And two years almost to the day that i bought it i'm still deeply in love. If i found a woman like that i'd marry her asap
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I wouldn't expect that the plugs would need changed very often on an EFI bike.
It seems that everything these days is a bit of a pain to work on. I'm not afraid to work on things myself. I did all the work on my T-100, but then it's a pretty easy bike to work on. If I leave it alone, the T-100 is a pretty low maintenance machine. It's generally the tinkering that creates the work, one change leads to another and so forth.

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I had a speedmaster, essentially a bonnie cruiser. And yes, they are far easier to work on. You can do valve adjustments easily by comparison. With the Tbird it's a major job by comparison. As long as you know what your in for you just have to weigh the good and bad.

Theres nothing but good as far as the ride tho. And if you thought the storm was strong, try it with short tors, free flow filter, filter seal removed and the one custom tune floating around for that setup. It's how i run mine and it's quite a bit stronger than a stock storm. By the way, isn't the SE a 1600?
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1. From what I have read, the T-bird has come through it's introduction with very few teething problems. That said, are there any issues I need to be aware of?
2. Maintenance. What sort of maintenance schedule does it have? Are there any weird issues I need to be aware of? Like half the bike needs to come apart for a simple service item or something of that nature. Belt drive, How long is the belt good for?
3. IIRC the T-bird SE had an MSRP of $14,999 brand new. Considering the relative rarity (around here at least), would $13,500 be considered a reasonable asking price for a demo with 2500 miles on it?
4. Do the saddle bags come off without a handful of tools. Me and the salesman were properly defeated by them if they just pop right off.
5. Ideas? Suggestions?
1. Loose coolant hoses
2. 500 mile break in oil change, 12,000 mile valve check, and regular oil changes.
3. Ask. If they say no then walk away. Chances are they will sell it to you.
4. 4 bolts on the inside of the bag.
5. Add highway lights, high flow air filter, and British Customs HogSlayer pipes. Ride and enjoy.

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I misread your post and missed #3. So my answer that says 3 is actually to 4, and 4 is actually to 5. So my answer to 3 would be IMO thats not a great deal regardless of rarity. But if thats the exact one you want then you have little choice. Your call, but i would wheel and deal and try and get them down to 13k out the door. I see dealers on craigslist selling brand new ones for less than list, sometimes as much as a couple grand under. Maybe try and get them to install the BB kit free or at least labor free. I just think you can do much better.ut again, in the end you are at thier mercey is thats the model you must have since they are no longer available.
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I've been toying with the idea of getting a T-bird SE lately. I started a thread in Twins talk and it appears that things have moved around a bit so I wanted to get this going in the right section.
https://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk...est-drive.html
Today I went and test drove a demo T-bird that is at my nearest dealer. I had previously tested a Storm and was impressed. Today I wanted to see if there was any issues with my large feet and the heel/toe Shifter setup. It worked our ok with that. I am seriously considering getting it but I was curious about a few things.
1. From what I have read, the T-bird has come through it's introduction with very few teething problems. That said, are there any issues I need to be aware of?
2. Maintenance. What sort of maintenance schedule does it have? Are there any weird issues I need to be aware of? Like half the bike needs to come apart for a simple service item or something of that nature. Belt drive, How long is the belt good for?
3. IIRC the T-bird SE had an MSRP of $14,999 brand new. Considering the relative rarity (around here at least), would $13,500 be considered a reasonable asking price for a demo with 2500 miles on it?
4. Do the saddle bags come off without a handful of tools. Me and the salesman were properly defeated by them if they just pop right off.
5. Ideas? Suggestions?
The Carnival Red SE supply is running low in the Brand new out of the box bikes. My dealer said she'd have to go out of state to find one. This configuration was the direct competition to the HD Soft Tail Heritage Classic. I bought mine at the end of October and they took a grand off of the top. List price was $15,800. After tax, title and license, I drove her out at $15,800. ABS was included with all of the other goodies.

I paid $11.95 per qt for 5 qts and $13.50 for the filter plus an hour and a half labor for the 500 mile service. They did the recalls at the same time. My next service is at 6,500 miles. With no other issues you have 4000 miles before you pay for service. The warranty is 2 years unlimited miles from the date of purchase so you lose nothing there.

I did have a loose hose clamp but fixed that myself with a screwdriver. As mentioned the saddle bags come off in less than 60 seconds from the factory brackets and take about twice as long to re-install. The factory brackets are black and show with the bags off. Easy Brackets have a specific set for the T'Bird with the backrest. Fast Eddy sells them (last time I checked about $135). They look good, are lockable and make removing and replacing the bags a snap. Once installed you can reuse the factory bags or a variety of aftermarket bags.

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You didn't say what year the SE was. I was quoted $12999 from two dealers here locally for a 2010. That did not include taxes, tags, setup, and freight. This was also a couple of months ago. I think you should be able to do even better now especially since you're talking about a demo.
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Well I went and bought it. I'm now the happy owner of a Thunderbird SE.
(Forgive the Cell phone pic.)


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