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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-23-2011, 04:11 AM Thread Starter
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2010 'Bird with no ABS, but it's cheap(ish)

So the local Triumph dealer is willing to be "aggressive" with the pricing on a demo 2010 Thunderbird with 300 miles on it. I've ridden the bike and it's definitely calling my name. But there is no ABS on it... That seems like a feature I would really want, and they are willing to throw in a free quick-release windshield, touring seat, back rest, etc... but that still doesn't give me ABS. Is it worth it to get a discounted 'Bird (and what would a good price be?) or should I wait for the next year's model to come in and pay the premium? I figure this bike will be the bike I ride for a while, and if I'm going to buy a new bike, I'm not going to be wanting to trade up anytime soon to get ABS which will probably be standard on all bikes in the next few years. I know there is no real right answer here, but who else do I turn to with a dilemma like this? Thanks.
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My 2010 does not have ABS, do I wish it did? Maybe, but once I rode it I had to have it! NO regrets.
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Abs is a newish thing on bikes and from what I have heard is good . But if the bike is a bargin with all the extras on I'd go for it . We have been riding bikes for a long time without abs.
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The free accessories is a deal from Triumph on leftover 2010 models. I got them when I bought mine in March of this year. My 2010 has ABS. Try calling some different dealers. It might be worth taking a drive elsewhere if you want the free stuff and ABS.
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There are still those that argue the merit of ABS, but no one in the industry does - the benefits are well known and documented.

I was in the same boat in 2009. I had the option to purchase a bike in June without ABS or wait until the end of the summer for an ABS version (ABS didn't release until later in 2009). I choose to take the bike without ABS, but given a choice, I'd take the ABS.

I'd call around as Lantesh suggests.
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How much riding will you do in the rain, snow, or ice? If not much, get the non-ABS. I'm not sold on ABS for bikes just yet.
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How much riding will you do in the rain, snow, or ice? If not much, get the non-ABS. I'm not sold on ABS for bikes just yet.
I have felt my ABS kick on in dry conditions. It is not just for wet.
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So the local Triumph dealer is willing to be "aggressive" with the pricing on a demo 2010 Thunderbird with 300 miles on it. I've ridden the bike and it's definitely calling my name. But there is no ABS on it... That seems like a feature I would really want, and they are willing to throw in a free quick-release windshield, touring seat, back rest, etc... but that still doesn't give me ABS. Is it worth it to get a discounted 'Bird (and what would a good price be?) or should I wait for the next year's model to come in and pay the premium? I figure this bike will be the bike I ride for a while, and if I'm going to buy a new bike, I'm not going to be wanting to trade up anytime soon to get ABS which will probably be standard on all bikes in the next few years. I know there is no real right answer here, but who else do I turn to with a dilemma like this? Thanks.
I am a rookie rider of the cruiser class. My 'Bird weighs more than the last two bikes that I rode put together. After not riding for more than two decades, it's almost like never having ridden at all. I took my bike out to practice a lot for the first month and a half. Emergency stops were practiced mostly at slow speeds (20-30 mph).

When Dufus pulled out in front of me I was doing 50 mph. I hit the rear brake harder than I intended (adrenaline will do that to you). What happened was that I did not high side the bike, I did not end up in the ditch and I did not hit bean brain's crappy Mazda pick-up; I was able to drop from 50 to 10 mph in less than 50 feet.

Thanks to the pulsating rear wheel I maintained complete control of my motorcycle and avoided the overwhelming urge to put some bullets in his butt.

I'll never own another street bike without ABS. Having said that, there are a number of riders out there that have more experience or better luck than I have. They ride without ABS and do fine. It is my fervent hope that the factory will offer ABS as an aftermarket add-on.

In my book it's the best $800 you'll ever spend. But, if the bike has what you want on it at a price you can't pass up and you can't locate a comparable 'Bird with ABS, don't let it keep you from riding a machine that most of us love. I thank my Thunderbird at the end of every ride for taking such good care of me. I hope that you will feel that way too.

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Great advice, y'all. Living in Oregon, I definitely ride in rain if I'm going to ride anytime of the year besides summer. I don't mind the rain actually if I'm in my leathers, but snow and ice... I like the heated seats in the Murano for that

I'm gonna go do some more test riding tomorrow and feel it out. See how low he will go on the price. But I'm not in a rush to get a bike, so if I wait for an ABS version, it won't kill me. Seems like giving myself every advantage to not crash a bike or loose control is important. Especially in this day and age of more and more traffic and more people being oblivious and distracted while driving their cars, umm, I mean cages.

Seems like a big jump in theory to go from my Vulcan 500 to a Thunderbird. But riding the Bird felt very natural and I thought it handled better than the America. That's what really sells me on it. And it gets as good mpg as my Vulcan from what I hear. So if I waited a little longer to get the best Bird for my money, that'll get a few more miles under my belt, and will probably make my wife happier. But regardless, to the Triumph dealer tomorrow for some riding and haggling!
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When Dufus pulled out in front of me I was doing 50 mph. I hit the rear brake harder than I intended (adrenaline will do that to you). What happened was that I did not high side the bike, I did not end up in the ditch and I did not hit bean brain's crappy Mazda pick-up; I was able to drop from 50 to 10 mph in less than 50 feet.

Thanks to the pulsating rear wheel I maintained complete control of my motorcycle and avoided the overwhelming urge to put some bullets in his butt...
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And that's exactly why ABS on bikes is good. Some people kid themselves into thinking that they can control wheel spin better than ABS. If they want to believe that, fine, but when a car or a deer or a kid or a raccoon, or whatever jumps in front of you, you have milliseconds to hit BOTH brakes as hard as possible without locking up the wheels. Even if you are going to hit the object, you want to scrub as much speed as possible to minimize the force. Most of us mere mortals either don't brake enough or brake too much when facing an imminent collision.
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