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post #21 of 60 (permalink) Old 05-19-2011, 05:18 AM
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I just replaced the frnt Metz. and fork oil. My fender had red factory applied locktite on all four torx bolts which took a little concentration to get out w/out messing em up. Mfg. date on mine is 10/09 if this helps, so it seems this issue is known and been addressed by the factory. It's possible to eyeball these fasteners and finger check them but the fender has to come off to access torx bolts. Aesthetic is great, but Triumph must've peed themselves when they saw the picture of that backed out bolt that destroyed the sidewall of our members tire. Fender falls off at speed? Catastrophic structural failure of front tire due to fastener? Yipes. Please check yours today. Thanks-Murph
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post #22 of 60 (permalink) Old 05-19-2011, 09:06 AM
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Cool- now will someone on the forum do that and post pictures of it so I can see what it looks like before I perform the amputation?

Here is a mockup I did some time ago that included a bobbed front fender.



Be aware though you aren't dealing with an air cooled engine here... there's a big radiator right behind the front wheel that is going to catch every stone on the road if you don't have a fender. While I like the look of a bobbed fender, I think it's a pretty bad idea on the bird.
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I said earlier that i think the issue was that they didn't use locktite on the screws on the bikes that are recalled. But looking at a new page yesterday it finally mentioned it IS a thread locker based recall and it said "wrong type of thread locker". So it appears they may have used blue or whatever and normally used red, which is what the new screws i just got were coated with. So i guess they saw that picture and decided to nip this one in the bud before they are knee deep in lawsuits. What they SHOULD be doing is recalling every bike and fitting bolt heads. That way they could also fit a piece that has locking tabs you bend up to the edge of the bolt like they do in front sprockets.
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Hey Thatch- appreciate the fenderless look. I worry, like you, about the radiator getting hammered by road scum as well. It doesn't look bad though. Also, Dazco- you're exactly right- ALL of the T-Birds should be recalled- the potential for disaster is pretty frightening. I just got back from a 2000 mile road trip in Utah and had enough to deal with - the rain, wind, and hail- without having to sweat checking my front tire at every fuel stop. Confidence in my ride is the supreme ingredient in having a great road trip.

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post #25 of 60 (permalink) Old 05-20-2011, 02:54 AM
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For those worried that using a stronger thread locker will make it hard to get the bolts back out...stop worrying! Thread locker keeps bolts from vibrating out. It does not work like glue or cement. With the proper tool the bolts will come right back out.
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For those worried that using a stronger thread locker will make it hard to get the bolts back out...stop worrying! Thread locker keeps bolts from vibrating out. It does not work like glue or cement. With the proper tool the bolts will come right back out.
Thats not my point. The reason i worry is not because i think threadlocker is like glue, but because it DOES make it harder to crack the screw and normally that wouldn't matter but the socket holes in these screws don't let the bit grip enough. So i fear stripping the head out. I didn't just assume that might happen, it actually did the first time i removed them. Didn't strip them to where i could no longer get them out or tighten them back, but it was close enough to worry and to order new ones. Thats why i bought new screws even before we knew about this recall. like i said, i ordered them just a couple weeks ago and the dealer called and said they arrived the day i saw this recall ! Talk about coincidence.

Anyways, if the hole in the screw fro the bit were a little deeper it would be much less worry if at all. Just be real careful to keep the bit straight in and pull slowly feeling for any stripping action and if there is pound the end of the bit in and that may help. But anyways, to be clear, i just don't feel the screws offer a solid enough grip on the bit to avoid this issue easily with locktite and a screw thats torqued nice and tight. And while you may say it doesn't need to be torqued tite, this is one place i'm not taking any chances. It all comes down to they should have used bolt heads, not only for a unstrippable grip, but so they could be tightened w/o wheel removal.
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According to the NHTSA link about this effects bikes manufactured between September 2009, and August 2010. My bike was made in December 2009. I just had it in for service, and the service writer told me there are no outstanding campaigns on my bike. I had him check because I wanted to know if I need the replacement seat bracket that was mentioned in another thread. Now I'm starting to doubt that he had accurate information.
This might be a dumb question but how did you determine the build date of your bike? I've been googling motorcycle VIN criteria and am only getting vague answers unless I want to pull out my credit card, but I don't want a history report I just want to know if I am effected by this recall - I know I know, I can wait until tomorrow when Bike shops open again, but this has been bugging me since I found out about the recall last night...

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Daryl there is a sticker with your VIN and build date on the driver side frame just behind the radiator cover.
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Daryl there is a sticker with your VIN and build date on the driver side frame just behind the radiator cover.
Which side is the driver side?
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It's also in your insurance and dealer docs. Input the numbers into the Triumph website under recall campaigns (or something like that) and it will tell you if you're in the club. I am-

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