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post #41 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-07-2010, 11:24 PM
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I tried turning the key off with the bike moving and the speedo went right to zero and read the correct speed when the key was turned on, so total power loss is not it. The gauge was working at the time, however.

Before I left, I took the chrome cover off and checked the connection. I was able to press it in a little further and it felt like it may have snapped into place. The ride afterward showed no signs of problems, but it was a short ride and it is quite a bit cooler out this evening than it was over the weekend when I was having problems. I guess I'll have to go for a longer ride.
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post #42 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-08-2010, 01:53 AM
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Clint75,

Great info on the plug. I hope its that simple! Definitely keep us posted. I surprised that not more T-Bird owners are experiencing this problem unless heat is a factor. If it is, we should start seeing more postings or dealers should start seeing more claims.
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post #43 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-08-2010, 10:55 AM
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Speaking of plugs (and this probably should be a separate post, but oh well), has anyone else had issues where, if they go through a good amount of silty sand (construction areas, etc.) the blown up silt and dust tends to collect in that crevice that has the oil fill plug?

This is bloody annoying to me, because I know that I will have to be damned sure every single bit of dirt, dust, and grit is out of that area when it comes time to check/fill the oil.

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Sticking Speedo and Hot Weather

Went for an extended ride over the last 4 days and discovered the sticking speedo problem. Suckola.

The problem: Sticking speedometer on 2010 Thunderbird 1700 w/ ABS brakes and a MPH speedometer.

Symptoms: Generally occur when it's hot outside and the sun is high in the sky. Haven't seen it happen when it's cooler out (below 90F), the sun is low in the sky and/or at night. Speedometer appears to just randomly stick at different speeds. Sometimes tapping on the glass makes it move, but eventually, it sticks solid at an indicated speed and won't move until I turn the bike off and back on. If it's still hot out, the speedo only works for a bit and then sticks again. None of the other gauges in the cluster appear to be effected. Tach works all the time and LCD display works correctly as far as I can tell.


It does not seem to impact the engine running or anything else. The only thing I've noticed in that department is that, when the bike it hot, it sometimes starts and dies. Upon restart and revving the engine a little, this problem goes away.

Occasionally, when I first turn the bike on, it makes an unusually "snarling" sound in the electronics. Usually, there's a smooth "whine" sound for a few seconds and then the bike will start. Once in awhile, I get this distorted sound but the bike does go ahead and start.

I have an appointment to take it in on Thursday to have it checked out. Sounds like we're all in the same boat in that there doesn't seem to be a real fix yet. I'll post what I find out.

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post #45 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-08-2010, 09:09 PM
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I have the same problem,intermittent, twice in 3000 km.
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post #46 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-09-2010, 10:33 AM
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Speedo Sticking

So, Yesterday I rode the T-Bird and with the weather being in the high 70's/low 80's and vary similar to last time when the speedo starting sticking and it acted normal. Very strange how we are all experiencing very similar issues with the gauge and different weather conditions! I am wondering if we are going to start seeing even more issues as the weather heats up around the country.

One thing I did notice yesterday was during my shifting, if that had anything to do with it? Some have mentioned the speedo is attached to the transmission which makes me wonder if I shift too quickly or something like that if it causes the speedo to miss? Yesterday I really felt my ride was spot on with shifting points. This might be why I didn't have any issues!

Who knows until we finally get an official answer to the problem.
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post #47 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-14-2010, 03:19 PM
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OK... the new speedo came in on Friday, but the shop didn't bother to call me and let me know that it was in. I just happened to stop by on Saturday when they were open and they informed me then. Had them do the changeout right away, so now I have a new speedometer on the bike... instant roll-back of the speedo!

Haven't had it out for any long runs yet, so I haven't really put it to the test to see if this has fixed the problem.

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post #48 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-14-2010, 11:40 PM
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Wells,

Glad to hear they replaced the unit. Definitely keep us posted. I am coming up on my 500 mile service and had planned on having them replace if that's the fix. I haven't had any issues for more than a week so I'm not sure if its correct itself.
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Unhappy speedo sticking

My dealer in KC told me that they suspected it was from the heat because they were only having problems in North America. Well... I was on the highest paved road in the US , MT. Evans Colorado at 14000ft. and 38F(cold) and my speedo was reading from 30 to 60 mph when I was only moving 10 to 30 mph. SO- it's not the heat guys. What erks me about this, just like the coolant leaks, is that it tells me one of two things(as I mentioned on a previous post) that Triumph did not do a thorough job of road testing these in all conditions OR they launched them knowing that they had problems.
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post #50 of 92 (permalink) Old 08-17-2010, 01:41 PM
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... What erks me about this, just like the coolant leaks, is that it tells me one of two things(as I mentioned on a previous post) that Triumph did not do a thorough job of road testing these in all conditions OR they launched them knowing that they had problems.
There just is no way to do perfect testing, which is why the first of anything will have a few issues.

As an outsider looking in, its easy to say they didn't do their jobs, but there just isn't a way to simulated everything a bike goes through when it gets into the real world.

I develop software for a living and I have my teams test at a level the exceeds most other software development organizations, but even after extensive testing, bugs still happen.

To produce a product as complicated as a motorcycle with zero first year issues likely isn't possible and if it was, it would require a geometric increase in testing expense that would undoubtedly increase the cost of the bike significantly. The testing expense vs. number of issues line isn't linear - as one approaches zero issues, the cost increases exponentially.

All things equal, the Tbird had a good first year.
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