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post #31 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 01:32 AM
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Speedo Sticking

Wells,

Thanks for the update! I think I have decided to wait until I hit 500 miles before I take my bike in for the speedo issue. It is concerning that nobody seems to know the problem. I fully understand that anytime you release a new model that there will always be some issues. As long as those issues get resolved, I have no concerns! However, I have owned products in the past that these type of fixes can tarnish the love one can have for a product. Please keep me posted to what resolution you get!
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post #32 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 05:15 PM
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Took the bird in this morning for them to work on. They have apparently done some testing at the direction of Triumph, and they are going to replace the speedo.

They don't have the part yet, and don't know when it will be in from Triumph at this time (probably a couple of days... most likely next week) so they are letting me have the bike back. I will pick it up tomorrow morning.

I swear sometimes it is like pulling teeth to get a dealer to do something! At least I found out that they will only charge me a half hour of shop time to do the TOR mapping. That is reasonable, I feel. Still haven't decided on whether or not to do it, but it is in the thought process now.

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post #33 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 09:40 PM
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So, I'm a new T-Bird owner and yesterday it seems my T-Bird also started experiencing the sticky speedo issues. I have 241 miles on my bike and on my way to work I noticed the speedo stuck at 65 mph. When I left work last night and put the key in, it seemed to reset the speedo. However, after riding down the street, it started sticking again. On my way home it seemed to work on and off finally working for the last few miles. This is very frustrating reading many other bird owners experiencing the same problem with really no idea from Triumph the problem or fix! When I called my local dealer, they had only seen this issue on one of the Demo bikes a few weeks ago. What's even more frustrating is I reviewed so many bikes and ultimately went with the T-Bird which I love, but this is definitely a buzz kill....

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Don't get discouraged, you've got a great bike with some new model teething problem. My dealer replaced mine at 106 miles, it has been working fine since. However, in 1996 Triumph had to replace three sets of speedo & tachs before the problem was finally fixed. But it was fixed under warranty. That was my first T-Bird (885) - I kept the bike for 10 years and 36,000 miles with no other problems.

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post #34 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 10:27 PM
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Thanks guys for keeping everyone updated! I shopped long and hard before I purchased my T-Bird and still haven't found another bike that catches my eye like the bird does! I went ahead and called my local dealer this morning and let them know I would wait until I hit my 500 mile service to have them fix the speedo issue. Its not a major issue but as well all know, we love these bikes and want them to be perfect! I know that my dealer will fix any problem. Wells, please keep us posted after they replace your speedo. Due to weather here in Reno, I haven't taken the bike out for the past couple days. Next time I ride will be interesting to see how the speedo reacts.
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post #35 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-06-2010, 11:00 PM
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Mine started acting up yesterday at around 700 miles on the bike. I have noticed two different failure modes. The most common is it simply sticks at a speed and will not move up or down with road speed changes. This seems to have a mechanical aspect to it as sometimes hitting a bump or tapping the gauge will cause it to unstick, but this is usually short lived.

The second mode is a more erratic behavior. It's as if the gauge selects a new speed as "0" and adds your current speed to this new base. I have had this happen only twice. Once it does this, it may increase the base speed yet again, but the needle still responds to changes in road speed. It did this today. Two increases left the base speed (when bike is stopped) at 75. Running with traffic down the highway (60-65?) had the needle running over the top of the LCD read-out. Tapping the glass does nothing once this happens. Turning off the key and restarting the bike is required to get the meter to return to zero. The gauge may work for awhile after doing this.

I'll have to get it into the dealer soon. Both days were pretty warm with temperatures in the high 80s before I began having problems. It was cooler in the morning when I left both days and I did not have problems until it got hotter out and the bike had been running for well over an hour, but with only two similar days with this happening so far, it is hard to tell whether heat is a factor.

This gauge set looks like it might be the same as the one used on the Rocket 3 Touring bikes. The smaller gauge on the R3 appears to be re-purposed for fuel level instead of a Tach. Has anyone heard of problems with the R3 speedo sticking? My bike has a build date of Feb 2010. Do those of you having this problem have a similar build date?
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post #36 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-07-2010, 10:16 AM
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Clint75,

Wow, You pretty much hit the nail on the head as to what my speedo has been doing! On Saturday, the weather here in Reno was in the low 80's and mine starting sticking about half way to work! It started sticking just like you mentioned and at one point, started off at 80 mph and reached as high as 110 mph.

Once I arrived at work, I took a photo of it for my records parked and doing 80 mph. After turning off and then back on the ignition, it reset to 0. Later that night around 9:30pm, it cooled down into the 60's and worked fine the entire way home!

As for the build date, mine shows 11/09! This might also explain the grey tape under the tank. I posted a thread asking who else has this tape under there tank? I'm now guessing that the early builds had this tape and after many months of builds, Triumph probably felt it wasn't necessary and did away with the tape!

As mentioned before, I am going to wait until I hit my 500 miles before I take mine in for repair. Especially since I hardly ever look down at the speedo!

Please keep all of us posted as to what your dealer does to correct the problem.

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post #37 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-07-2010, 10:31 AM
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I have seen these exact same symptoms as well (simple sticking and acting as a new baseline 0).

I wanted to chime in a bit on my observations pertaining to the base 0 sticking... when this is happening, I have noticed that the needle is also a lot more jumpy when accelerating or decelerating. You don't get that nice smooth transition of speeds (as indicated by the speedo) that you normally get.

I haven't pulled my cowling off to look at the date on mine yet. When I get home tonight I may do that. I put another 150 miles on the bike yesterday, and it only stuck one time... and I hadn't even noticed when it happened because it was right at the end of one of the legs of my trip, and I was in traffic where I don't look at it.

One other thing I have tried before to reset it.... I have killed the engine at speed, completely turned the bike off at the key, then tried to restart it. This did nothing for the speedo... it stayed at the new base 0 or locked in at some random speed. It seems that it really wants the engine to not be running or the wheels to be turning in order to reset completely.

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post #38 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-07-2010, 09:13 PM
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Bike Bandit shows different part numbers for the gauges for ABS vs. non ABS bikes and MPH vs kPH. Mine has a ABS/MPH gauge. Is this specific to ABS/MPH bikes, or are other combinations having the same problem?

Interesting about turning the key off while moving and having the gauge change to a new base speed when turned back on. I am curious if the logic in the gauge assumes that at power up the bike is not moving and the needle is at the 0MPH mark already (instead of rotating it back to be sure) and then adding the speed being read to this position. I wonder if while the gauge has lost power (or some other connection) while the bike is in motion if the speed stays where it was last registered until the connection is restored. If true, this would support the poor connector theory. Dealer said today that they have had another bike do this that was solved by re-seating the connector under the cover on the top of the tank. I have not checked this on my bike yet.
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My bike is the ABS/Klm since the dealer changed the speedo no problems have done over 5000 KLm
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post #40 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-07-2010, 10:36 PM
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Wells - Thanks for the picture idea. I was lucky that when I went to take the bike in for the oil leak out of the right crush washer while on the way to the dealer the speedo got stuck first at 65 and when I came to a stop down to 35.
I got to the dealer left the bike running ran into the service dept and grap a service rep to come outside and verify that the speedo was stuck. I've already been down the diagnostic road with other Triumph bikes I've had so this time I was making sure that someone from the dealer would confirm the issue. I also took a picture and so did the service rep.
They called me back and told me they would have to call Triumph as they haven't seen this issue before. I guess that's better than having me call Triumph will keep everyone posted on their solution. My guess would be a new speedo but who knows with dealers now trying to save and manufactures being more strick on warranted returns
On a side note the temp here in Phoenix was about 102 when I left for the dealer so I'm thinking that hot climates may have something to do with it.
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