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I’m getting better at this but I really find it difficult not to get angry at people who simply refuse to try to get through a set of traffic lights when they are following you. Or won’t even try to ride at the speed limit, becoming an ever diminishing headlight in your mirrors and/or getting tangled up in the traffic you have deliberately left behind. You slow down so they’ll catch up and they slow down “to keep the gap”. I much prefer riding alone or with a few select souls who actually get it.
I prefer to ride like that, and get annoyed when people aggressively gun it at a yellow to make sure they dont get left behind. I watch the people following me, and if some dont get through a light, I either slow or pull off until they catch up.

I tend to ride with my dad and brother, and we get quite separated when we ride. I slow down every few minutes until I see them again, the we spread out. Seems like otherwise I'd have to slow down for them or they would have to ride faster than they are comfortable to keep up. Sometimes if there is a really good long stretch of curves, I may pull off for a few minutes and get the camera out to catch them coming by.

I thought that was what "ride your own ride" was about, but maybe that isn't as common as I thought?
 

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I prefer to ride like that, and get annoyed when people aggressively gun it at a yellow to make sure they dont get left behind. I watch the people following me, and if some dont get through a light, I either slow or pull off until they catch up.

I tend to ride with my dad and brother, and we get quite separated when we ride. I slow down every few minutes until I see them again, the we spread out. Seems like otherwise I'd have to slow down for them or they would have to ride faster than they are comfortable to keep up. Sometimes if there is a really good long stretch of curves, I may pull off for a few minutes and get the camera out to catch them coming by.

I thought that was what "ride your own ride" was about, but maybe that isn't as common as I thought?
I ignored your comment initially but have decided now to respond. I don’t expect someone following me to ride any faster than they’re comfortable with. If you read what I actually said is that I get annoyed when they make no effort to keep up. I do slow down but see no harm in someone following me to at least making some effort to close the gap as we approach some lights. That’s all. Sitting 100m behind me at the same speed I’m travelling is not helpful when someone is showing you the way to go.

Your final remark was judgemental and unnecessary in the context of what I wrote. I thought people on these forums could actually read but maybe it isn’t as common as I thought. :wink2:
 

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I don’t expect someone following me to ride any faster than they’re comfortable with. If you read what I actually said is that I get annoyed when they make no effort to keep up. I do slow down but see no harm in someone following me to at least making some effort to close the gap as we approach some lights. That’s all.
In your initial comment you were not at all clear that you were limiting the scenario to in traffic with traffic lights. You mentioned their headlight ever diminishing, but now you say falling back to 100m and staying there. Even in the above quoted portion, if you slow down to solve the issue, how do you expect them to solve the issue without riding faster? If they are actually going the same speed as you just 100m behind, then they are already keeping up. They just aren't doing it as close as you like.



Your final remark was judgemental and unnecessary in the context of what I wrote. I thought people on these forums could actually read but maybe it isn’t as common as I thought. :wink2:
No judgement intended. The way I like to ride isn't "better" than yours, just different. You seem to want others to adopt your preferences (or you slow down for them) when riding with you, and that's fine. I prefer everybody to do their own thing, just on the same roads. I much prefer everybody to know the route, but if they don't, I just make sure everybody knows to wait until the person behind them clears an interesection before they move out of sight. Have made more than one multi-day trip and haven't lost anybody yet, even though we often lose sight of each other for 15 to 20 minutes at a time. Have on occasion had to back-track and find a rider with a mechanical problem or who had crashed (crashes only on dirt rides so far), but never lost anybody.


Your last comment morphed from my indication that you may not follow the "ride your own ride" philosophy (which is not an insult or a value judgement), into a reference to lack of reading skill. Both of those closing comments are unnecessary, as is commenting at all. However, only one was judgemental.
 

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Oh dear. You know nothing about my riding style. I don’t expect people to do anything in particular. I was only commenting on what I saw as my worst riding habit; ie what I find difficult not to get annoyed at. That is what this thread is about, not a platform to pat yourself on the back and say how terrific you think you are.
 

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letting myself get distracted by my phone/maps. As far as speeding goes, I always stay within 10-15 mph over the posted speed limit signs being their only meant for cars and just a suggestion for bikes, so I'm good there :grin2:
 

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I also have a problem with cancelling my turn signals, especially on his bike. I thought it was just old age or my sanity but I have to say the it is very difficult to see the indicator on my dash and I can't see the signal stocks while riding. I never had this problem with other bikes I've owned.

Another problem that needs work is that I do not rely on my tire grip enough. I tend to read the road too much, looking for loose gravel and such, especially in corners. I should be looking farther ahead.
I also tend to squeeze my handgrips too much, no idea why.
 

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I also have a problem with cancelling my turn signals, especially on his bike. I thought it was just old age or my sanity but I have to say the it is very difficult to see the indicator on my dash and I can't see the signal stocks while riding. I never had this problem with other bikes I've owned.



Another problem that needs work is that I do not rely on my tire grip enough. I tend to read the road too much, looking for loose gravel and such, especially in corners. I should be looking farther ahead.

I also tend to squeeze my handgrips too much, no idea why.


Your not alone in squeezing the handgrips.


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I also have a problem with cancelling my turn signals, especially on his bike. I thought it was just old age or my sanity but I have to say the it is very difficult to see the indicator on my dash and I can't see the signal stocks while riding. I never had this problem with other bikes I've owned.

Another problem that needs work is that I do not rely on my tire grip enough. I tend to read the road too much, looking for loose gravel and such, especially in corners. I should be looking farther ahead.
I also tend to squeeze my handgrips too much, no idea why.
Your not alone in squeezing the handgrips.


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There is usually a reason why people grip the handgrips too tightly. Sometimes is has to do with being less than totally comfortable with how and where you are riding (a bit of a survival reaction triggered by things like entering a corner too fast, running wide, not looking far enough ahead etc.) If there are specific instances you can think of where you are gripping tightly, that might give you an indication of what is causing it. Sometimes though it is simply that the body position and connection with the motorcycle isn't as stable as it could be and so you feel the need to hold onto the bars tightly. What could/should you be doing with your lower body to ensure that you can indeed relax that grip on the handlebars?
 

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Oh dear. You know nothing about my riding style. I don’t expect people to do anything in particular. I was only commenting on what I saw as my worst riding habit; ie what I find difficult not to get annoyed at. That is what this thread is about, not a platform to pat yourself on the back and say how terrific you think you are.
Ok. You don't seem to be able to avoid thinking that I'm judging your riding style. If you'd like to turn a conversation into an argument, go ahead. Point taken that this isn't about patting ourselves on the back, but about pointing out our worst riding habits. Your worst riding habit has nothing to do with your riding, but that you harshly judge how others ride?

Mine is likely that I multitask too much. I alter my route on the fly when I should pull off, which involves removing gloves, messing with the phone, and putting gloves back on. I mess with the music, pull out a camera and take a pic/video, etc. Not in traffic, but not a good idea either.
 

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Haven’t been riding long enough to get any good habits yet.
Just got my MSA on Thursday got my restrictions lifted on Friday AM bought a bike on Friday PM. First bad habit impulse buying.
Now I’ve been out of the parking lot, A couple of times by my self.
Indicators. Yep forgot them a bunch.
Engine braking. Yep. But it works so well.
Remembering to use both brakes.
Making sure I’m looking around to see what’s happening. I’ve mostly been caught out by cars coming up behind me. I’ve been going kind of slow.
Crossed Granville on 16th. Left turning cars ahead, Shoulder checked, saw a car coming quickly up the inside, slowed to let him pass, shoulder checked again. Looked ahead the buggers had stopped. I stopped closer and more quickly than I had planned.
Slowed for road work on 41st. No lines on road crap lan position avoiding man hole covers. Kits SUV squeezed past me any way, first I knew it was there.
I decided to split a little bit of lane. It was just one car then the turn lane. Fortunately I did it slow. Car in front turned right without indicating.
Turning left. I was a bit to far over while waiting. White merc decided to turn left by passing me.
Riding along SW Marine looking far enough ahead, and spotting the pot holes. Spotting the potholes and looking far enough ahead.

Oh yea forgetting the indicators came up a few times.
Covering the clutch yep did this as well, and the front brake, and the back brake,
Forgot to tap down a couple of times. Probably most of the time but only noticed a couple of times.
Stopped the engine by putting the kick stand down twice.
Was to busy to take the bike out on Saturday.

So two short rides on two days worth of errors or bad habits.

Best fun I’ve had by myself in years.
 

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Haven’t been riding long enough to get any good habits yet.
Just got my MSA on Thursday got my restrictions lifted on Friday AM bought a bike on Friday PM. First bad habit impulse buying.
Now I’ve been out of the parking lot, A couple of times by my self.
Indicators. Yep forgot them a bunch.
Engine braking. Yep. But it works so well.
Remembering to use both brakes.
Making sure I’m looking around to see what’s happening. I’ve mostly been caught out by cars coming up behind me. I’ve been going kind of slow.
Crossed Granville on 16th. Left turning cars ahead, Shoulder checked, saw a car coming quickly up the inside, slowed to let him pass, shoulder checked again. Looked ahead the buggers had stopped. I stopped closer and more quickly than I had planned.
Slowed for road work on 41st. No lines on road crap lan position avoiding man hole covers. Kits SUV squeezed past me any way, first I knew it was there.
I decided to split a little bit of lane. It was just one car then the turn lane. Fortunately I did it slow. Car in front turned right without indicating.
Turning left. I was a bit to far over while waiting. White merc decided to turn left by passing me.
Riding along SW Marine looking far enough ahead, and spotting the pot holes. Spotting the potholes and looking far enough ahead.

Oh yea forgetting the indicators came up a few times.
Covering the clutch yep did this as well, and the front brake, and the back brake,
Forgot to tap down a couple of times. Probably most of the time but only noticed a couple of times.
Stopped the engine by putting the kick stand down twice.
Was to busy to take the bike out on Saturday.

So two short rides on two days worth of errors or bad habits.

Best fun I’ve had by myself in years.
Ha! Good to notice and know what things are cropping up for you and good to be able to make light of it. Have you considered more formal training anywhere to hone in those riding skills? Because you are a newer rider now would be the time, before you can being to answer this thread about your worst riding habits! Can't have any if you don't make any! :).

Ride safe!
 

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Ha! Good to notice and know what things are cropping up for you and good to be able to make light of it. Have you considered more formal training anywhere to hone in those riding skills? Because you are a newer rider now would be the time, before you can being to answer this thread about your worst riding habits! Can't have any if you don't make any! :).

Ride safe!
Yep, I got a bit more to go. There a couple of road rides with the course. I did it with 1st gear. I enjoyed it and I would recommend them. I couldn’t fit the whole 5 days into my days off so I will go back. Also plan to get a practice road test. Or two. Before I try booking it.
They do an advanced course, the full licence is required. So get my full license. Then I might just give it a shot.
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Forgetting things.. earplugs, sunnies, cancelling turn signals in the city, the directions of where I'm going.. ugh, I'm such an amateur.

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Forgetting things.. earplugs, sunnies, cancelling turn signals in the city, the directions of where I'm going.. ugh, I'm such an amateur.

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HA!!! I've been riding a long time and am not considered an amateur but I forget the exact same things hahahahah! Earplugs, sunnies, cancelling turn signals and directions hehehe. I'm kind of looking more for actual riding skills that you feel need the most improvement. Even for seasoned riders like myself, there are things I need to work on. Sometimes during lunch, CSS coaches get to go out and ride and burn a few hot laps. Even so, we are usually working on some aspect of our own riding and have our colleagues observe and suggest things to improve. It is something that is constantly a work in progress :)
 

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Looking awesome while I ride.
 
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