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In all the discussions over the past several months regarding the new water-cooled twins (ST/T120/Thruxton) several commenters have noted that in their opinion the new bikes would not measure up to what is currently available in the Street Triple line.
As someone who rides a '12 T100 on an almost daily basis, and an MV F4-1000R on the weekends, I thought that the discussion was sometimes interesting, and sometimes not - a lot of what was said about the new twins was drivel IMO particularly if you hadn't yet ridden any of the bikes. Since most of it was posted pre-availability, there seemed to be a lot of arse-pulling involved.
But, it made me curious about a Triumph that I had not considered before: The Street Triple!
So, I called my salesman at the dealership where I had purchased the Bonnie (Kyle @ SoCal Motorcycles in Brea CA - USA) and asked if he had an S3 or S3R I could ride? Well, he did; and so I went out this morning and rode a '15 675R.

A different animal from the Bonnie, for sure, but with some welcome features not found on my '12. Progress can be wonderful.
I liked the gear indicator, the fuel gauge and fuel range indicator, and even the shift lights (though this bike was still in the "break in" period and they just came on as soon as you cracked the throttle).
What was not as welcome was the riding position, as it seemed to be twixt-&-tween: Not really street, and not really race, and forced me to sit further forward than I liked and not as upright.

Now, the last time I'd been on a triple was back in the '70's with a Kawa H1 - a bike you are not likely to forget riding (if you survive).
I am happy to say, there is no comparison between the two:
The Street Triple-R is a much, much better bike, with predictable power, great brakes, fantastic handling, and a great riding experience -
if only I fit on the bike better.
Oh - and a bit of personal preference - The twin weird-shaped headlights:
Hate them.

YMMV!
 

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I test rode the same one a while back... Coming from a cruiser at the time I felt the same about the seating position. A few months later I kept thinking how much fun that bike was, and if only it was more comfortable. Then I found a deal on a beautiful 2012 street triple r and couldn't pass it up. Intended to keep both bikes, but found after just a short while I had adjusted to the triple and found the cruiser uncomfortable. Now the cruiser is sold and the triple is my daily rider... Couldn't be happier


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Try Yamaha FZ-09 or XSR900. They have more upright riding style. I have both Triumph Scrambler and Street Triple and I feel the same every time I ride Street Triple after riding Scrambler. However, Street Triple's more aggressive riding style makes it easier to lean, and control the bike. It's a fast bike designed to be ridden fast.

You can also try bar risers to raise the bar height. That will certainly make it a little more comfortable. I have learned to grip the bike with my knees (tank pads are a must on Street Triple), so the aggressive riding style doesn't bother me as much anymore.
 

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I have been awaiting the arrival of the new Bonnie's for years, with all intentions of owning one. However, I've also had my eye on an ST3 for years & having ridden several know just how good they are. This year I decided I was going to look for a nice late model ST3, ride it for a year or two, & then trade for a new Bonnie/ Thruxton after the hoopla died down a bit.
So now I'm the proud owner of a mint condition 2010 ST3. And I'm going to keep my current Bonnie. A nice Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde kind of combo IMHO...:laugh2:
 

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Ramses, in case you missed it, I'm not dissatisfied with my daily ride - a '12 T100 Limited Edition Bonnie #875/1000.
If I want to be "aggressive", I have the F4 -
which can be much more aggressive than I care to be at my age.
Along that line, if I were to consider a Triple, I'm crazy enough to go FULL ON DAYTONA.
 

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a lot of what was said about the new twins was drivel IMO particularly if you hadn't yet ridden any of the bikes. Since most of it was posted pre-availability, there seemed to be a lot of arse-pulling involved.
You know... With an introduction like that I had really hoped you had some new insights to write about... Well any bike really, instead you offer up the same talking points on the street triple that can be read in the press for almost ten years now. Kinda underwhelming.

But still thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
 

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Ramses, in case you missed it, I'm not dissatisfied with my daily ride - a '12 T100 Limited Edition Bonnie #875/1000.
If I want to be "aggressive", I have the F4 -
which can be much more aggressive than I care to be at my age.
Along that line, if I were to consider a Triple, I'm crazy enough to go FULL ON DAYTONA.
Well...that would take care of the "twixt and tween" riding position, and the funky headlights. I actually like the riding position. It's sporty enough without being too much so. The lights? There's a fix for that, too.



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No more "glamour" shots. Due to my hip problems, I haven't been riding much...or at all lately. I did add some bling to the screen, though.



Here's another I took while putting it all together.

 
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I just started assembling a new XSR900 at work. It was snowing today :surprise: so I didn't take it for a test ride. I'll give my impressions of it after a ride. I like the FZ-09's but I would not trade my street triple R for one. Prepped a new T120 and Street twin too, cool bikes!
 

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Well...that would take care of the "twixt and tween" riding position, and the funky headlights. I actually like the riding position. It's sporty enough without being too much so. The lights? There's a fix for that, too.



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I like your fix.
Well Done, Marine!
My primary complaint about the riding position is that on a 2-up bike, I'm forced - when solo - into that front section of the saddle, when I prefer having my hips further aft.
It's all about what you're used to, and "grew up" with.
 

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I have a '13 Street Triple and a '14 T100. Yes, the riding positions are different as you might expect since the bikes "missions" are different. I have to say though that the Street Triple's handling and response are the closest to those of my '71 Daytona of just about any bike I've ever ridden--which I view as a good thing. I have raised the bars on the Triple a bit which helps with the riding position and I have changed bars on the T100 to move the grips forward and out a little bit which also helps my comfort on that bike. I'd almost go without food to keep from getting rid of either of them.
 

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...My primary complaint about the riding position is that on a 2-up bike, I'm forced - when solo - into that front section of the saddle, when I prefer having my hips further aft.
It sounds like I'm trying to convince you, but I'm really not. If the Street isn't for you, it isn't for you. The Daytona is a fantastic bike, BUT, there are two potential fixes for the sloped seat on the Street.

The RX version uses the Daytona tail section and seat, so it should be identical to the Daytona, or Spencer can reshape the single unit of the the non-RX to flatten it out a bit. I sent my "comfort" seat to him and it came back much better - not perfect, because there's not enough material to completely get rid of the slope - but better.

You could get an RX, switch the bars for clip-ons and throw a set of rearsets on it, but unless your were completely in love with the idea of the Street, you'd most likely be better off with the Daytona at that point anyway.

The one thing I would say is that if you've never owned a triple, you owe it to yourself to get one. I've owned I4s, V4s, and V2s, and have ridden singles and P2s. Triples just seem to be the absolute best of all worlds.
 
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The one thing I would say is that if you've never owned a triple, you owe it to yourself to get one. I've owned I4s, V4s, and V2s, and have ridden singles and P2s. Triples just seem to be the absolute best of all worlds.
I want to see some one make a W3 engine bike just for the weirdness factor!
 

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A seat only for me -

Ok, since the topic of seating and position came up, I'll add my two-bits... The modification below probably wouldn't suit anyone else aesthetically or ergonomically, but it has worked out really good for me, as it's 'molded' to my uh... parts.

I needed to lower the bike, as nowadays I'm 5'-4. Took an inch of height by shoving the tubes up the trees, and lengthening the drag link a bit.

Then, here's what I did to reduce seat height. Someone bought a 3rd party seat and had their OE one for sale on ebay cheap. Bought it, put my stock one away for safekeeping.

Removed the cover and foam padding, trimmed the parts I wanted removed (narrowed the pan at the stand-over area, etc.). Fitted my 10" PVC sewer pipe cowl® then stapled wire mesh to the pan and sat on it to 'form' it to me. Chopped up some fiberglass and kinda like stinky papier-mâché, gave it some sturdiness. Trimmed it up, smoothed out the rough parts and took the cover and seat I made to the local upholstery guy who added an 1/8 of dense foam to smooth out my crappy workmanship and stretched the cover over it. He went on and on about the 'miracle material' our seats are covered with : -)

The results netted concerned looks from friends and family, but it's surprisingly comfy - not much padding certainly, but maybe because it fits me so well, I can easily ride a full tank to warning light which I count not possibly do on the stock seat. The stock seat had kinda a dome-feel where my tender parts are and this contraption allows me to be flat-footed and ride all day.

Not for you perhaps, but it sorted out a couple problems for me and I had fun fooling with it.

 

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Ramses, in case you missed it, I'm not dissatisfied with my daily ride - a '12 T100 Limited Edition Bonnie #875/1000.
If I want to be "aggressive", I have the F4 -
which can be much more aggressive than I care to be at my age.
Along that line, if I were to consider a Triple, I'm crazy enough to go FULL ON DAYTONA.
I totally get that you have the best of two worlds with the F4 & T100, night and day, I'm sure. I rode the new T120 and after owing a couple triples in the last two years, I was aghast at the performance! But...

I'm envious of you for having the large difference of the two machines, and sometimes I would like to have some sort of cruiser so my wife would ride along, but it's just not my scene. Perhaps I'll change over time, but like BBK Jack, for me the triples is where it's at. My perfect paring is the fantastic all-around 675 Street Triple and the astonishing, gut-joy that comes from the roaring howl of the 955 Triple Daytona. Two three cylinder motorcycles in my garage is heaven.

But... if I could have only one bike, it would be the Street Triple.
 

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Some of you seem to have missed that I only did this ride because I was curious about the dedication of many towards the triple by posters in the run-up to the release of the new ST's and T120's, and SoCal MC's were nice enough to let me scratch this itch.
Also, at one point I believe I may have mentioned, if not here perhaps on other threads, that I have owned and ridden a triple - a Kawasaki H1 in the early 70's. I rode that beast for 2-3 years commuting about 70 miles round trip every day here in SoCal.
The TR Triple is a well turned out bike, it just isn't MY bike......horses for courses, as they say.
Cheers.
 
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