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Before photos:







Took it out of my father's barn this afternoon with plans of rebuilding it over the winter. Much more to come, but I couldn't help putting these pictures up and starting the new thread.











 

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And now my garage has three black Triumphs in it...



My plan is to "rebuild" the bike over the winter. My father has had it for thirty something years and it is obviously not original or numbers matching. Without doing too much research yet, its a '66 T120R engine in a '63 frame. Thats about all I know so far, but I'll have plenty of information and almost more importantly plenty of photos as the project progresses.

Everybody's help is greatly appreciated throughout, from finding out what we've got to figuring out what direction to take it.

Here we go!
 

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While I think that the TT look is great, I'm looking to make it streetworthy once again so it can be rode again.

But don't worry, I'm sure I'll be asking to have other parts of yours.
 

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Well, let's see...

I think you are gonna need a new front tire. Although Plewsy might slap some silicone in those cracks and run it until it's bald.:D

What is going on with the inner primary? Is that a bead of silicone holding things together? Typical for a chain failure to rip that section out. My '66 had a repair in that area and I've seen quite a few more with the same repair. Is that piece glued in place?

The oddest thing are those front sliders? I've seen plenty of extended for legs (aka stanchions), but have never seen extended sliders. I assume you are going to remove the extended front end. You probably can still use the old stanchions if they are not all pitted. I assume if the slider are extended, you don't have to extend the legs. Hell, you can epoxy them like I did if you want to reuse them and save a few bucks. I can help you with that.

I wonder if those old extended sliders are worth anything. I've never seen them before. Anyone else familiar with them?

I have an original seat from I believe a '67 you could probably talk me out of for the right price. I don't remember any issues with it other than the logo being a bit faded.

I can also help you get set up to do you own zinc plating. That will save you a few bucks and help you with details that separate a decent bike from a really nice bike. I also have a bead blast cabinet and if you use stainless nuts and bolts for generall assembly instead of Whitworth, if you bead blast them, they are hard to tell from cad plate and never rust.

Dad looks a little forlorn over the bike leaving home. He's touchin it like a cowboy saying good bye to his old horse. I suspect he's happy you are taking it, but sad that another chapter in his life has ended.

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Rob
 

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I was thinking of using black shoe polish on the front tire- that should fill the cracks just fine. (Burt Monroe?)

That is a bead of silicone on the inner primary. Apparently there is a crack or chip in there which was sealed with the silicone. We'll have to see about that...

The front fork lowers are definitely longer than standard. My father bought the bike in the 70's when everything was chopped out- he had a hardtail on it at one point. He thinks they he replaced the tubes with standard size, but the lowers were on there when he bought it. I wonder if there is any value to them- I'll post over on the jockey journal and ask around. It would be nice to bring it back to a standard setup.

I may take you up on the plating setup, I almost did it on my Trident and regret not doing it. If you have the seat hanging around when I get to that I may take that off your hands (frame is a 63... but I have no clue what the rear subframe is or what seat it would take).

The plan is to pull the engine and work on that first. I'd like to get that rebuilt, stick it in a corner, and then work on the frame/wheels.
 

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I like to make a list of everything I need and have as much of it on hand as I can afford. That way I'm not held up waiting for parts as often. Also I take all the stuff off I'm not going to use and eBay it to help finance the project up front.
 

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I had another candidate for the seat here in the general forum. It made me look harder at it and it is a '68-70 seat. The '67 turns out to be a one year seat.

It should fit your frame. Will need the J-hook type hinges. Can't hurt to put it on the frame and see how things line up.

The plating process is a good way to pass away winter nights. It's also fast enough that if you need to replate a part because a wrench slips or some other reason. It's about a 10 minute job to blast it and replate it.

Shoe polish.... now why didn't I think of that?

I have to agree with Duc. I keep a clipboard in the shop and write stuff down as I find I will need it. There is no way you can keep it all in your mind. Then, go thru the parts book page by page and the pictures will tell you what else you will need like gaskets and o-rings and on and on...

Put it in a spreadsheet. Makes it easy to compare pricing from various vendors if you buy on-line. Also lets you keep a running total of how big a dent it will make in your wallet.

Since she is not going to be a 100 point resto, don't forget Fastenall over on Railroad Ave. Lots of stainless nuts and bolts and if you bead blast the stainless after grinding the head markings off, they look just like cad plate. Or, you can polish them to look like chrome.

regards,
Rob

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I keep a clipboard in the shop and write stuff down as I find I will need it. There is no way you can keep it all in your mind. Then, go thru the parts book page by page and the pictures will tell you what else you will need like gaskets and o-rings and on and on...
...and you'll STILL end up ordering a few more bits and bobs at the very end!

hee hee
 

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Got it- thanks.

Gave the bike another look over tonight. Some photos of the odd extended fork lowers (maybe I can find somebody who wants them in exchange for a standard front end?):







Aside from the chrome rear frame and chrome swingarm... look at the homeade rear loop (I should copyright these photos so nobody can steal the custom rope seat hinges):





Speaking of interesting frames... it was pointed out to me on another forum that the 63 frame has the foot pegs mounted to the lower frame rails while other years use the engine mounting plates. This frame (63 per the number, right?) doesn't have those mounting points but is set up with the pegs on the engine plates. Thoughts on this bastardized frame?





 

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I think I should rename this thread "ridden hard and put away wet".

Spent an hour or so the other night pulling some things apart on the bike. Primary cover has been repaired in three locations and my father remembered each one.





Some previous fuel sealant repairs on the wiring, bent bolt and a loose chain:





Patch where drive chain must have come loose and broke the case- its been patched like this since before he bought it.



Rear DS with seat and covers taken off (switch is for ignition- no key switch on the bike)



TS with tank off



TS with TT pipes off (exhaust spigots look good)



And DS with pipes off



Hope everybody enjoys pictures... My mindset is changing on this project from a nice rebuild to a "get it running again" rebuild.
 

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That's what I'm thinking Paul.

Do you know if there are supposed to be head-steady brackets on coming from the exhaust rocker boxes to the frame? Studs are there...

Anybody notice the kickstand repair?
 

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All that nastiness and still a chrome sub-frame. I love it.

Yes, there are 4 head mounting brackets that install on the long head studs.

You can repair the wires on that stator to restore their integrity.

The broken inner primary can be welded up. If it is done right, you can dress the welds, resurface the replacement metal and make it disappear. Are you familiar with George Govel on Central Ave, just west of K-mart? He can fix that primary cover and the inner as well.

Travis, suggest you take the time to walk thru my restoration thread. Lots of pictures to answer the questions you have posed here as well as others that may come up. I had to fix the wiring on my stator and what I did may help you repair yours. I know the thread is long, but I tried to shoot a lot of detailed pics to help others like you.

That tank rubber mounting horseshoe is from a later model Triumph. I believe OIF bike.

If you want to stop by the house to see the kind of paintwork Charlie McDermott does, PM me and I'll give you my cell number.

regards,
Rob
 
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