Apply brakes = front end down, rear end up = steeper steering head.Trail braking cannot steepen the steering head, the steering head is a fixed member of the frame !
I've heard a couple of frame guys talk about "headstock angle" or something like that. It IS a frame geometry parameter that is established as the frame is constructed. The frame builders are usually measuring it relative to some reference in a frame jig. It may or may not be related to how they expect the bike to sit when on the road but is not the same as steering head angle when a complete bike is on its wheels with a rider aboard.Yeh well you better go back and repeat then
I thought I said that each time I posted that the steering head is a fixed part of the frame. The discussion I thought the was about the dynamic change of rake and trail.The steering head is a F$%* fixed part of the frame and cannot change. I get what all you guys are saying bit I am at a loss to see how you cannot see rake and trail will definetly change but steering head is a fixed part of frame
So you been doing it but don't know how it works. Well that's cool. Most of us don't know how a computer works, but we know it does work, and we know to use one, and someone smarter than us knows how to make it. That's all that matters.I might try some trail braking, hang on I been doing that for forty years
No one thinks the head angle changes and you know it. You are trolling.I know how and why it works , done many track days. Just cannot understand how everybody thinks their steering head angle can change from grabbing front brake. Yes the whole front end dives and puts weight on the front tyre, but that does not change the factory welded angle. The whole geometry changes not the head angle.