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I know this topic has been beat to death in the forum, but I am still a bit confused. I purchased a used '04 SM with Triumph off-road short pipes on it. The sound is pretty good, but I would like it a little lounder, nothing too excessive. I have read many "bafflectomy" topics on this site, but forgive my lack of knowledge. I look at the back of the pipe and see a long tube in the middle, and when I look down it with a flashlight, it looks like I can see all the way to the front of the pipe. It has a mesh type metal around it with fairly large holes. Near the back end of the pipe, there is a cap around the tube in the middle. Is the "baffle" the cap near the end? If it is the baffle and I drill this thing out with a hole cutter, does tube in the middle just hang there?

I read "bafflectomy" topics on stock pipes and it sounds like these are different. It sounds like this center tube in the middle is offset on the stock pipes.

Again, sorry for my lack of knowledge and any help would be greatly appreciated on TOR shorties in particular.
 

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I am pretty sure most of the "bafflectomies" were done on stock pipes. If the TORs are not loud enough, Sceptres, Predators, and D&D's are all louder
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Geoff, thanks for the info. Someday I may upgrade to the ones you listed. For now, I am stuck with the ones I have. Anyone else know if it is possible to modify TOR shorties?
 

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Pokey, I bid a bafflectomy on my stock pipes, haven't seen the shorties.

On the stock pipes the baffle is a disk with a tube through it offset to one side. There are several of these baffles through the length of the muffler. I guess this may be similar in the TOR's??

I removed the last two baffles in each of my pipes, which improved the sound a little. I drilled around the tubes, and broke the centre piece including the tubes out.

I eventually bought new pipes, which honestly doesn't sound that much different to the ones I modified. Next ones I buy I will want to hear first..

Good luck.

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This is all from memory that is a couple of years old, but I have performed a bafflectomy on TOR Shorties. I thought that it was fairly easy to do. What I remember is that there are two plates (front and back) with a hole in the middle and these two plates are connected by a perforated tube running most of the length of the pipe. Surrounding the perforated pipe is packing material. In order to accomplish the bafflectomy, you need to be able to remove both plates and everything in between. Using hand tools, I worked around the outer edge of the back plate to separate it from the overall outside pipe. I then worked the plate back and forth until the perforated tube broke off. Since the perforated tube is perforated, I just worked it until the metal between the holes broke. At this point you should be able to see all of the packing material. I just used a hooked coat hanger to start pulling the material out through the end of the pipe.

When all or most of the material was removed, I was left with the remains of the perforated tube still connected at the inlet side of the pipe and the plate that holds the tube to the outer pipe. In theory, you could work the tube and try to separate it from the plate and just leave the forward plate for back pressure, etc. I ended up removing both plates, the tube, and all of the packing material essentially leaving a mostly wide open pipe.

For me, I was able to get this set up to run very nicely and it definitely had volume. I have since purchased Sceptres because I wanted something a little deeper sounding and I wanted the longer pipes.

On the day that I swapped from the wide-open TOR Shorties to the Scepters, I took a video (with audio) of each for comparison. I'd be happy to post these files somewhere if anyone has a suggestion. They are both about 25 Meg.

Comparing the two setups, I'd say that the volume of the Open TOR Shorties is almost as loud as the Scepters, but the tone is lower (and nicer in my opinion) on the Sceptres.

Lastly, I still have the Open TOR Shorties in the garage just sitting there. I don't really expect to ever go back to them, so if someone is interested and willing to pay a few bucks for them along with shipping charges, I'd be happy to pass them on.

Steven
 
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Pokey,

PM received, but since I am new to posting on this site, I can't respond until I have 10 posts. Please PM me again with an email address and I'll respond directly to you that way.

Steven
 
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