2020 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
So for the SW Motech tank bars, you had to remove the lower case protection bars? Yikes. I'll be honest. I'd rather protect my cases from damage and live with a dent in my tank.
I will eventually replace the stock bash plate with something that offers a bit more protection. The crossbar piece for the SW bars provides some protection, not too dissimilar to what the lower engine guard provided, although It's hard to say if any of the engine casing is more exposed as a result.So for the SW Motech tank bars, you had to remove the lower case protection bars? Yikes. I'll be honest. I'd rather protect my cases from damage and live with a dent in my tank.
The barkbusters were easy to add. Took maybe 30 minutes. The biggest issue was removing the crappy plastic stock guards, and then getting the mirrors aligned once they were gone. But it was an easy install and I feel as good about them protecting the bike as I do the new crsh bars.Like those SW Mo bars...!!! 👍👍
Are the Barkbusters a straight simple bolt-on add...??
Those are a soon to add part.
A long time ago I dropped my GTpro in the garage and posted photos of contact points on this forum.Wonder if there's been any more real world drops from folk with just the oem bars on?
I've got the Outback Motortek bars on, and not sure what to think. I've dropped it once, low speed on gravel and the marks were to the barkbusters and to the upper crash bar (this was with unfilled soft luggage on a rear rack)
Looking at the OM crash/slide video you immediately think "Wow, must get me a pair of them", but if they stick out from the tank, they're always gonna take hits, whereas without them, I'm not sure the geometry is such that the tank would get hit - unless it just happens that there's a protruding rock/grassy knoll in just the right place. Worthy of note that the OM video doesn't show what happens with an oem set of lower bars in place - I reckon most times you'd be fine.
With significant rear luggage on (and I'm thinking more hard panniers than soft) that just might skew the dynamics to force the tank closer to the ground, but again - dunno
Having a close look at the OM bars, it's difficult to clearly see how those upper engine mount bolts are getting stressed. Given the bolt failures seem to have been 'fatigue', the obvious assumption is that any crash bar mounting up there is creating a rigid link/cage around the engine/frame where before there wasn't one - resulting in engine flex forces being transmitted to bolts/mounting points that are unable to tolerate them. Having said that, perhaps the lack of a true cradle frame is the issue and given enough time we may see bolt failure in the oem set-up? I know that the fella's who've had the failures have been certain that they were tightened right & had the right spacers in the right spot, but I guess you never know if they haven't loosened a bit? So, mine are definitely at 48Nm, with the spacers in the correct place, and they're marked so I can check after every ride if they slack off. I'll keep you all posted if anything happens.
I'm half tempted to stick the oem's back on and do some 'assisted' drop testing, see what happens. Or at least get a big bit of ply as 'the ground' and see where the contact areas are.
I reckon we simply need to hear more from folk who've dropped it
There are a number of people who have reported bolt breakage with the H and B bars. (I believe I was the first victim) One of these victims reached out to me on my Youtube video on this issue to let me know.Quick update - I received a PM from one of the inmates at advrider who had the original H&B tank guard (not the solid version) and he also had a bolt shear off.
I had SW bars on my F700GS and I really liked them but initially rejected them for the Tiger mainly because they didn't look like they'd protect the tank as well, and they required replacing the OEM lower engine guard - which of course I had paid for with my RP. In hindsight though, I like the weight savings of the SWs without the lower guard, and now that they are mounted, I feel confident they will protect the tank (combined with BB hand guards). Anyway, I will report back if I have any significant drops but they are solid and I'm happier with them, than the H&Bs for a bunch of reasons I called out earlier in the thread.Its a curious situation with the Outback Motortek bars. Part of me wonders if the breakages are a Tiger-specific situation that really only becomes apparent as part of the customer-testing phase. I've spoken to another 900 Tiger owner here, who has put OM bars on his new 900. He reported that this is his third bike with the OM bars and he has never had any issues, and is very happy with them.
Another friend here has OM bars on his BMW F700Gs and likes them, though he did have some quality issues with the bars; a bracket was welded on backwards on one piece.
I had SW on my F800GS (came with the bike) and they did not seem as robust as the OM bars, but I never tested them. And again, we may find that on particular brand or design is best, in the long term, for the new Tigers.
Just my morning musings.
Looking at this French review (use YouTube desktop for translated subtitles) who thoroughly tested the SW bars, I think you're fine. I have them on my GT Pro and I only use the bike on the tarmac, so for me it sufficiently protected.I had SW bars on my F700GS and I really liked them but initially rejected them for the Tiger mainly because they didn't look like they'd protect the tank as well, and they required replacing the OEM lower engine guard - which of course I had paid for with my RP. In hindsight though, I like the weight savings of the SWs without the lower guard, and now that they are mounted, I feel confident they will protect the tank (combined with BB hand guards). Anyway, I will report back if I have any significant drops but they are solid and I'm happier with them, than the H&Bs for a bunch of reasons I called out earlier in the thread.
Which Barkbusters did you go with?I think people should pay attention to the importance of the Barkbusters hand guards in the video. Without them the fuel tank would have been damaged. Mine was on a very low speed drop when on black ice. I then fitted the Barkbusters.