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Are you running the lower OM bars on this? Im thinking staying away from the upper bars is a good idea and from the pics it seems this provides what is needed for some light falls. I just bought a 850 sport and will be 99% road riding but i want a skid plate and some sort of protection for a random soft fall. Im thinking of having the dealer install them as well so it takes the heat off me.
Yes. The setup seems to be sufficient for most falls, but some off-road terrain could be different.

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Cross-boarding pics again from another thread on ADVrider.

Get those upper crash bars that attach to the beak off your bike. Cracked beak subframe and cracked mount on the bike frame.


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Agree. The lowers are good, and I too was looking at SW Motech. It appears they might fit with the OM lower bars, and if so, I would look more carefully at them. It is hard to know how much protection is necessary, or reasonably useful, or wise. Those of us who's off pavement skills are modest are perhaps more likely to fall over when the seasoned riders would power through it. So, different fall scenario possibly?
The SW Motechs do not fit with the OM lowers -- they replace them but go up higher. I dropped my bike a few times in class this past weekend and the SWs did the job!
 

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Thanks @Marnie for this info. Do you have OEM lower bars, or nothing 'down there' at all? If nothing else, is your sense that the SW bars alone are giving good coverage?
 

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OK, upper bars coming off when I go for my annual at the dealer. Lower bars stay, upper bars off, and I'll trust the dealer to do the torque settings correctly.

I also hope the affected person posts here to share their unfortunate experience.
 

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All this talk of bolt failures has made me paranoid. I have the Hepco & Becker originals. No idea what I torqued them too, as I used a Allen key and a ring spanner as a lever. Just checked and mine are fine at about 16K Kms. Maybe some have been over torqued or just a bad batch of bolts.
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Im thinking like @flyingburritobrother says to maybe leave crash bars off mine being that its a road princess but I’d like a skid plate for the roads around my area being chip and seal and sometimes gravel and i don’t want a pesky stone hitting that filter or exhaust any recommendations on one that doesn’t require the lower crash bars?
 

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Im thinking like @flyingburritobrother says to maybe leave crash bars off mine being that its a road princess but I’d like a skid plate for the roads around my area being chip and seal and sometimes gravel and i don’t want a pesky stone hitting that filter or exhaust any recommendations on one that doesn’t require the lower crash bars?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not read any issues with the stock lower bars. It has been the upper bars that are causing the problems. I would leave the lowers on, they do work(ish).
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not read any issues with the stock lower bars. It has been the upper bars that are causing the problems. I would leave the lowers on, they do work(ish).
THere was one guy (Blak_duc) on ADV rider. He went down in a light crash, the factory lower crash bar punched a hole in his engine case. That had to be a freak thing though.

Personally, I would not remove the factory lower engine crash bar.

The real horror stories are the upper tank crash bars.
 

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All this talk of bolt failures has made me paranoid. I have the Hepco & Becker originals. No idea what I torqued them too, as I used a Allen key and a ring spanner as a lever. Just checked and mine are fine at about 16K Kms. Maybe some have been over torqued or just a bad batch of bolts.
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In my case the bolt was analyzed and was found to NOT be overtightened....nor was the bolt faulty.

BTW....those crash bars you're using anchor to the beak.....that's not a good thing. A number of cases of broken beaks and frame cracks in a drop. All that weight of the bike hitting the ground putting all that pressure on a feature not designed for it.

IN addition to the beak damage pics shared in post #283 above....here is another one.


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A week ago I had a nasty accident as I hit a small deer that literally jumped under my front tire out of nowhere. I failed, and the bike slid 10 m. The frame and some other parts will have to be replaced what made me think to remove also my OM crahsbars after reading about all the issues here and at ADVRider (By the way did their job minimizing the damages to the right side of my bike. The damage to the frame came from the frontal impact). Is there a consensus which crashbars are relatively safe when it comes to its impact on the frame? OM lowers only, SW moto?
PS. Nothing serious happened to me :) - only a few bruises on my right hip - a proper clothing/protectors helped A LOT
 
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